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A Pale Blue Dot - Voyager 1

wklee
July 24, 2026
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    wklee
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    July 24, 2026, 11:03 p.m. July 24, 2026, 11:03 p.m.
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    The Voyager 1 which was launched and A Pale Blue Dot which had Carl Sagan speak about it in 1990, will reach 1 Light Day from Earth now.

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    Fireplace33
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    July 25, 2026, 8:41 a.m. July 25, 2026, 8:41 a.m.
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    The "pale blue dot" phrase really makes you think,...
    After 36 years of high speed travel, Voyager is only a single light-day away!
    That reality check completely shatters the fantasy of escaping to "Planet B" after we ruin Earth. Good luck surviving thousands of years in deep space if the freezers break down. In the meantime, we need to put massive effort into keeping our current planet pleasant for everyone staying behind.

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    Bryan
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    July 25, 2026, 2:45 p.m. July 25, 2026, 2:45 p.m.
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    @Fireplace33 has written:

    The "pale blue dot" phrase really makes you think,...
    After 36 years of high speed travel, Voyager is only a single light-day away!
    That reality check completely shatters the fantasy of escaping to "Planet B" after we ruin Earth. Good luck surviving thousands of years in deep space if the freezers break down. In the meantime, we need to put massive effort into keeping our current planet pleasant for everyone staying behind.

    There are a few utube vids from respected scientists who debunk the possibility of traveling to even the closest star, let alone finding a habitable planet.

    We really do need to look after this one...

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    wklee
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    July 25, 2026, 3:40 p.m. July 25, 2026, 3:40 p.m.
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    We do need to look after it, currently we are failing. There are photos of entire hillsides being turned into Solar Panel installations and other eyesores.

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    Bryan
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    July 25, 2026, 3:47 p.m. July 25, 2026, 3:47 p.m.
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    @wklee has written:

    There are photos of entire hillsides being turned into Solar Panel installations and other eyesores.

    Well we need electricity from some other source than fossil fuels...

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    Fireplace33
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    July 25, 2026, 9:08 p.m. July 25, 2026, 9:08 p.m.
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    @wklee has written:

    We do need to look after it, currently we are failing. There are photos of entire hillsides being turned into Solar Panel installations and other eyesores.

    😂
    I'll assume this is a joke, and assume you mean other eyesores like:
    -Pumpjacks (Donkey Pumpers): mechanical jacks pumping oil that dot and scar rural and desert land.
    -Open-Pit and Strip Mines
    -Gas Flaring Towers: shooting constant bright orange flames into the night sky
    -Refineries and Processing Plants: venting steam and smoke
    -Offshore drilling rigs that explode and spill millions of barrels of oil into the ocean
    -Oil tanker crashes like Exxon Valdez with 11 million gallons of oil in the sea and hundred of miles of beaches stained and all the dying wildlife

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    wklee
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    July 26, 2026, 6:54 a.m. July 26, 2026, 6:54 a.m.
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    Haha, I had forgotten about the Deepwater Horizon Environmental Disaster and probably other disasters.

    Midway Island in the middle of nowhere. Nobody visits and it’s a US Department of Fish and Wildlife Site.

    It’s a landing site for the Albatrosses who live there. Chris Jordan is a Photographer.

    youtu.be/-M9t2fm__K0

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    wklee
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    July 26, 2026, 2:35 p.m. July 26, 2026, 2:35 p.m.
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    Elon Musk with SpaceX and Tesla. Where are we going? He says we are going to Mars?

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    AlanSh
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    July 26, 2026, 7:38 p.m. July 26, 2026, 7:38 p.m.
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    @wklee has written:

    Elon Musk with SpaceX and Tesla. Where are we going? He says we are going to Mars?

    Mars and the Moon are not self sustainable - still need supplies from us down here to keep going.

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    xpatUSA
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    July 26, 2026, 11:01 p.m. July 26, 2026, 11:01 p.m.
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    @AlanSh has written:
    @wklee has written:

    Elon Musk with SpaceX and Tesla. Where are we going? He says we are going to Mars?

    Mars and the Moon are not self sustainable - still need supplies from us down here to keep going.

    According to dish network channel 90 here, they're taking seeds and making oxygen+hydrogen from Mars' water.

    After all, "The Martian" lived on taters for over a year. Great movie ...

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    wklee
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    July 26, 2026, 11:18 p.m. July 26, 2026, 11:18 p.m.
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    The theory is that Mars and the Moon are still on Earth. Greenland/Iceland could be Mars. The terrain was almost identical.

    In space where would the human refuse go to? There would need to be a way to remove them from the spacecraft, or not. If we’re planning on going there.

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    GreatBustard
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    July 27, 2026, 4:09 a.m. July 27, 2026, 4:09 a.m.
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    @wklee has written:

    The theory is that Mars and the Moon are still on Earth. Greenland/Iceland could be Mars. The terrain was almost identical.

    Neither exist on Earth. Similarity in terrain, yes, but it ends there. Terraforming Mars, if even possible:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Mars

    would require [several] orders of magnitude more effort than simply cleaning up Earth (in terms of pollution, energy production, economics, etc.) that the billionaires have all but zero interest in doing, and the politicians that they own reflect said "values".

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    wklee
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    July 28, 2026, 10:17 a.m. July 28, 2026, 10:17 a.m.
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    Link to the photo itself.

    science.nasa.gov/mission/voyager/voyager-1s-pale-blue-dot/

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    JPG, 237.6 KB, uploaded by wklee on July 28, 2026.

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    GreatBustard
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    July 28, 2026, 6:53 p.m. July 28, 2026, 6:53 p.m.
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    www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1816628-pale-blue-dot-a-vision-of-the-human-future-in-space

    “Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

    The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

    Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

    The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

    It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”

    ― Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space

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    Bryan
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    July 29, 2026, 12:51 a.m. July 29, 2026, 12:51 a.m.
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    @GreatBustard has written:

    www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1816628-pale-blue-dot-a-vision-of-the-human-future-in-space

    ― Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space

    We need to take that on board. We can't be stupid enough to think we can trash this planet and then just move to another. Even if musk gets something happening on Mars, do you think he will take you or me if the shit is hitting the fan?

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    wklee
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    July 30, 2026, 12:18 a.m. July 30, 2026, 12:18 a.m.
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    Voyager 2 is less famous than Voyager 1? Where are they now?

    science.nasa.gov/mission/voyager/where-are-voyager-1-and-voyager-2-now/

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    wklee
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    Aug. 3, 2026, 7:53 a.m. Aug. 3, 2026, 7:53 a.m.
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    There never was anything other than Voyager 1 and Voyager 2. In Star Trek : The Motion Picture there was V’Ger Voyager 6 which came back to look for its creator.

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    rodriguezPhoto
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    Aug. 7, 2026, 6:01 a.m. Aug. 7, 2026, 6:01 a.m.
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    A couple of years ago it was almost game over for Voyager 1.

    spectrum.ieee.org/voyager-1

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    wklee
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    Aug. 7, 2026, 7:51 a.m. Aug. 7, 2026, 7:51 a.m.
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    @rodriguezPhoto has written:

    A couple of years ago it was almost game over for Voyager 1.

    spectrum.ieee.org/voyager-1

    Thanks for the info.

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