• Tordpanorama_fish_eye
    54 posts
    2 years ago

    I got my first iMac (just discarded when I started to empty the store room!) almost 20 years ago and pretty soon I found Apple Aperture being ideal for my way of thinking and doing things. I had learned the ins and outs of pro photo editing in the early '90s, and started with PhotosShop 3.0, having learned the basics myself with PhotoDesk (running RiscOS), in the '80s (still available!).

    Then Apple stopped supporting Aperture, and I definitely did not like Photos, so I continued with Aperture till my newer cameras were no longer supported. I tried a lot of alternatives (and spent a lot of money), including LR, and found nothing I really liked. But a member of the Nikon 1 Talk group tipped me about a free version of the earliest version of DxO's software Optics Pro, and then I have been upgrading it ever since.

    The basic RAW tools were good from the start, and then after a while came the fantastic denoising, which was far better than Topaz DeNoise and other packages of that era. So I used DxO for converting the RAW images to TIFF for further processing with Aperture, and that worked for a while, till the macOS wasn't compatible with Aperture any longer.

    But DxO PhotoLab (as Optics Pro now was called) had over time grown local adjustment tools, and the denoising was even better than before. So, after having tried LR, GIMP, and others, I decided to do all the editing in DxO PhotoLab 6 (which by now is at 6.5.1 build 49), which also runs on my laptop (a Surface 4 Pro) effortlessly, if slightly slower than on the 'new' iMac (by now over 5 years old).

    The basic operation of DxO is very simple, and I mainly use six settings:

    DxO Smart Lightning (basic adjustments of the dynamic range); Exposure; Selective tone (dampening the highlights, lifting the dark areas, et cetera, if the Smart Lightning didn't do a perfect job), ClearView (if there is irritating haze, or smoke, in the air), and Contrast (including micro-contrast).

    The 'local tools' have just been around a few years, but give you tools to do local sharpening and most of the ones I mentioned before, and you can use masks if you want to (a bit like Ol' PS!).

    Before exporting as JPEG I use Unsharp Mask and choose which denoising option I want to use.

    Rarely use the color-balance tools, but they work quite well, as far as I've used them.

    Having edited over 1,000,000 images over the years PhotoLab works well for me and is not as complex to learn as PhotoShop.

    Some years back someone managed to write a hack for Aperture that now works again on Macs, but it is a bit unstable, so it occasionally crashes.

    DxO PhotoLab (and Optics Pro) has crashed occasionally when new versions were released but very rarely, say at the most once every three years?!

    An excellent RAW processor (with restricted JPEG abilities) that has models for nearly every lens made since lenses got chipped, so you have very rarely need for adjusting vignetting unless you want a special effect.

    I don't give it a full 5 points, as the local editing is not as fluent as Aperture's local editing was, but it gets better for each generation.

    If you want it to do more imaginative things, I export the files as TIFFs and use Affinity Photo for the final tricks!

  • OregonDawgpanorama_fish_eye
    1 post
    2 years ago

    I have a similar experience, I've also used DxO since the Optics Pro days, I currently have PL6. I originally chose DxO over LR because I did not want to use LR's catalog for all my images, I do my own thing in that regard. My camera is a Fuji X-T4. Anyhow, I use DxO as a Raw converter, I apply all the lens corrections, and otherwise apply some level of SmartLighting as necessary. I will sometimes do some Local Adjustments, the control points are awesome to use, at least for me. I might use ClearView, but rarely. Otherwise, I apply Deep Prime noise reduction and export the image as a JPEG and then finish my editing in Apple Photos, which has really improved over the years and works nicely for my needs. Pretty much all I do in Photos is fine-tune the lighting, Photos has a great feature for this, easy to use. Finally, I have Luminar Neo that I use as an Extension with Apple Photos, but I don't use it a ton, it comes in handy for certain things from time to time. I've not been able to warm up to Affinity Photo, it's more than what I need, so I've not invested the time in learning it since I don't do that level of editing. Affinity also works as an Extension with Apple Photos.

    Horses for courses, but it's fun to share.

    Thank you for your post Tord.

  • CAcreekspanorama_fish_eye
    123 posts
    2 years ago
  • 2 years ago

    I have just upgraded from PL5 to PL6. My PC has an AMD 3900X CPU and 32GB RAM with Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drives. The GPU is not the latest (Radeon Pro W5500). After reading elsewhere that DeepPrime XD runs slower than DeepPrime, I was amazed to find that this is not significantly the case: it takes only seconds to work, and does miracles, as these two 100% crops show:

    IMG_5921_DxO-2b.jpg

    IMG_5921_DxO-1b.jpg

    David

  • Ghundredpanorama_fish_eye
    758 posts
    2 years ago

    Why would anyone in their right mind, shoot at ISO16000, f/22 & 1/80 shutter speed at 17mm?

  • Stigpanorama_fish_eye
    599 posts
    2 years ago

    Either to produce a needed example for the use enclosed, or the possibility of a real life event.

  • SrMipanorama_fish_eye
    457 posts
    2 years ago

    To simulate a low light situation? I doubt that the images supplied are from real-life shooting.

  • Ghundredpanorama_fish_eye
    758 posts
    2 years ago

    Hmmmm. I guess the interwebz geeks minds work in a completely different fashion. Myself, I'll just head out, and take real pictures, rather than simulations. Kind of like thisP1010568-20160211.jpg

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    JPG, 2.4 MB, uploaded by Ghundred 2 years ago.

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    JPG, 2.4 MB, uploaded by Ghundred 2 years ago.

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    JPG, 2.5 MB, uploaded by Ghundred 2 years ago.

  • deejjjaaaahelp_outline
    260 posts
    2 years ago

    it is OK dGPU ( between 1070Ti and 1080 ) and R6 is only 20mp = so works well

    browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks

    now 100mp GFX100 will be different

  • deejjjaaaahelp_outline
    260 posts
    2 years ago

    real sodium vapor quality 👍

  • CAcreekspanorama_fish_eye
    123 posts
    2 years ago

    What happened to PhotoLab 6.6?

    I'm already up to 6.7 and waiting for X-S20 support. Version 6.7 still can't open HEIC files.

  • Austinianhelp_outline
    54 posts
    2 years ago

    I have 6.6 Build 192; it just downloaded 6.7. Did DxO promise HEIC support? I haven't been paying much attention lately.

    (now 6.7 Build 219)

  • CAcreekspanorama_fish_eye
    123 posts
    2 years ago

    108 votes for it on the feedback list, which oddly does not have the same password as shop.dxo!

    Promised since 2019 for PL2 but "on hold" for now. One workaround is open in GIMP, save as TIFF.

  • Ghundredpanorama_fish_eye
    758 posts
    2 years ago

    Chinese Karaoke bar LED's actually. Horrible things. Especially when mixed in with their penchant for Gold highlights. Everywhere.

    Edit -if my equivalence hasn't deserted me, a couple of those are ISO12800 135 format equivalent. Noise wise. Not too shabby at all I thought. Not sure if it's something to do with them not putting in a lot of R&D into the m4/3 side of it, but you can also get some quite severe colour casts for some reason.

  • TorsteinHpanorama_fish_eye
    15 posts
    2 years ago

    OK photos, but could do with some work on white balance...😎