• Members 54 posts
    April 28, 2023, 7:31 p.m.

    I got my first iMac (just discarded when I started to empty the store room!) almost 20 years ago and pretty soon I found Apple Aperture being ideal for my way of thinking and doing things. I had learned the ins and outs of pro photo editing in the early '90s, and started with PhotosShop 3.0, having learned the basics myself with PhotoDesk (running RiscOS), in the '80s (still available!).

    Then Apple stopped supporting Aperture, and I definitely did not like Photos, so I continued with Aperture till my newer cameras were no longer supported. I tried a lot of alternatives (and spent a lot of money), including LR, and found nothing I really liked. But a member of the Nikon 1 Talk group tipped me about a free version of the earliest version of DxO's software Optics Pro, and then I have been upgrading it ever since.

    The basic RAW tools were good from the start, and then after a while came the fantastic denoising, which was far better than Topaz DeNoise and other packages of that era. So I used DxO for converting the RAW images to TIFF for further processing with Aperture, and that worked for a while, till the macOS wasn't compatible with Aperture any longer.

    But DxO PhotoLab (as Optics Pro now was called) had over time grown local adjustment tools, and the denoising was even better than before. So, after having tried LR, GIMP, and others, I decided to do all the editing in DxO PhotoLab 6 (which by now is at 6.5.1 build 49), which also runs on my laptop (a Surface 4 Pro) effortlessly, if slightly slower than on the 'new' iMac (by now over 5 years old).

    The basic operation of DxO is very simple, and I mainly use six settings:

    DxO Smart Lightning (basic adjustments of the dynamic range); Exposure; Selective tone (dampening the highlights, lifting the dark areas, et cetera, if the Smart Lightning didn't do a perfect job), ClearView (if there is irritating haze, or smoke, in the air), and Contrast (including micro-contrast).

    The 'local tools' have just been around a few years, but give you tools to do local sharpening and most of the ones I mentioned before, and you can use masks if you want to (a bit like Ol' PS!).

    Before exporting as JPEG I use Unsharp Mask and choose which denoising option I want to use.

    Rarely use the color-balance tools, but they work quite well, as far as I've used them.

    Having edited over 1,000,000 images over the years PhotoLab works well for me and is not as complex to learn as PhotoShop.

    Some years back someone managed to write a hack for Aperture that now works again on Macs, but it is a bit unstable, so it occasionally crashes.

    DxO PhotoLab (and Optics Pro) has crashed occasionally when new versions were released but very rarely, say at the most once every three years?!

    An excellent RAW processor (with restricted JPEG abilities) that has models for nearly every lens made since lenses got chipped, so you have very rarely need for adjusting vignetting unless you want a special effect.

    I don't give it a full 5 points, as the local editing is not as fluent as Aperture's local editing was, but it gets better for each generation.

    If you want it to do more imaginative things, I export the files as TIFFs and use Affinity Photo for the final tricks!

  • Members 1 post
    April 30, 2023, 2:20 a.m.

    I have a similar experience, I've also used DxO since the Optics Pro days, I currently have PL6. I originally chose DxO over LR because I did not want to use LR's catalog for all my images, I do my own thing in that regard. My camera is a Fuji X-T4. Anyhow, I use DxO as a Raw converter, I apply all the lens corrections, and otherwise apply some level of SmartLighting as necessary. I will sometimes do some Local Adjustments, the control points are awesome to use, at least for me. I might use ClearView, but rarely. Otherwise, I apply Deep Prime noise reduction and export the image as a JPEG and then finish my editing in Apple Photos, which has really improved over the years and works nicely for my needs. Pretty much all I do in Photos is fine-tune the lighting, Photos has a great feature for this, easy to use. Finally, I have Luminar Neo that I use as an Extension with Apple Photos, but I don't use it a ton, it comes in handy for certain things from time to time. I've not been able to warm up to Affinity Photo, it's more than what I need, so I've not invested the time in learning it since I don't do that level of editing. Affinity also works as an Extension with Apple Photos.

    Horses for courses, but it's fun to share.

    Thank you for your post Tord.

  • Members 123 posts
    May 9, 2023, 2:12 a.m.
  • Foundation 1507 posts
    June 8, 2023, 9:31 a.m.

    I have just upgraded from PL5 to PL6. My PC has an AMD 3900X CPU and 32GB RAM with Samsung 980 Pro NVMe drives. The GPU is not the latest (Radeon Pro W5500). After reading elsewhere that DeepPrime XD runs slower than DeepPrime, I was amazed to find that this is not significantly the case: it takes only seconds to work, and does miracles, as these two 100% crops show:

    IMG_5921_DxO-2b.jpg

    IMG_5921_DxO-1b.jpg

    David

  • Members 746 posts
    June 8, 2023, 11:54 a.m.

    Why would anyone in their right mind, shoot at ISO16000, f/22 & 1/80 shutter speed at 17mm?

  • Members 599 posts
    June 11, 2023, 3:29 a.m.

    Either to produce a needed example for the use enclosed, or the possibility of a real life event.

  • Members 457 posts
    June 11, 2023, 8:35 a.m.

    To simulate a low light situation? I doubt that the images supplied are from real-life shooting.

  • Members 746 posts
    June 11, 2023, 8:44 a.m.

    Hmmmm. I guess the interwebz geeks minds work in a completely different fashion. Myself, I'll just head out, and take real pictures, rather than simulations. Kind of like thisP1010568-20160211.jpgP1010804-160229.jpgP1010808-160229.jpg

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    JPG, 2.4 MB, uploaded by Ghundred on June 11, 2023.

    P1010804-160229.jpg

    JPG, 2.4 MB, uploaded by Ghundred on June 11, 2023.

    P1010808-160229.jpg

    JPG, 2.5 MB, uploaded by Ghundred on June 11, 2023.

  • Members 260 posts
    June 11, 2023, 3:18 p.m.

    it is OK dGPU ( between 1070Ti and 1080 ) and R6 is only 20mp = so works well

    browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks

    now 100mp GFX100 will be different

  • Members 260 posts
    June 11, 2023, 3:19 p.m.

    real sodium vapor quality 👍

  • Members 123 posts
    June 11, 2023, 4:20 p.m.

    What happened to PhotoLab 6.6?

    I'm already up to 6.7 and waiting for X-S20 support. Version 6.7 still can't open HEIC files.

  • Members 54 posts
    June 11, 2023, 5:04 p.m.

    I have 6.6 Build 192; it just downloaded 6.7. Did DxO promise HEIC support? I haven't been paying much attention lately.

    (now 6.7 Build 219)

  • Members 123 posts
    June 11, 2023, 6:46 p.m.

    108 votes for it on the feedback list, which oddly does not have the same password as shop.dxo!

    Promised since 2019 for PL2 but "on hold" for now. One workaround is open in GIMP, save as TIFF.

  • Members 746 posts
    June 11, 2023, 9:52 p.m.

    Chinese Karaoke bar LED's actually. Horrible things. Especially when mixed in with their penchant for Gold highlights. Everywhere.

    Edit -if my equivalence hasn't deserted me, a couple of those are ISO12800 135 format equivalent. Noise wise. Not too shabby at all I thought. Not sure if it's something to do with them not putting in a lot of R&D into the m4/3 side of it, but you can also get some quite severe colour casts for some reason.

  • Members 15 posts
    June 23, 2023, 10:03 a.m.

    OK photos, but could do with some work on white balance...😎