• Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 4, 2026, 4:20 p.m.

    The model 6 p/n 560 is actually said to be made under license by Sekonic, neither by Weston nor by Sangamo-Western. Mine came with the optional Adams Zone dial, which is why I bought it out of interest.

    meter.JPG
    dial.JPG

    Took me a while to figure out the Adams Zones bit. There's a small arrow where "V" should be. Basically, it gets pointed to the meter reading on the inner dial by rotating the outer dial. Pick the desirable resulting aperture/shutter combo and the metered object will render as middle luminance i.e. the object will be "placed" in Zone V. To place an object, e.g. snow, in a lighter Zone, rotate the outer dial until perhaps "VII" is pointing at the meter reading ... or, for the proverbial coal heap, rotate the outer dial until "II" is pointing at the meter reading. These additional rotations change the exposure appropriately and are equivalent to Exposure Compensation now that the Zone System is almost forgotten.

    To test the degree of compensation for snow, I figured the Exposure Value recommended by the illustration above - it is 13 Ev. (from log2(N^2 / t).

    Then I turned the outer dial to align "VII" with the same meter reading on the inner dial - sure enough, the recommended Exposure Value changed to 11 Ev ipso fatso.

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    JPG, 595.3 KB, uploaded by xpatUSA on Jan. 4, 2026.

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  • Members 2467 posts
    Jan. 4, 2026, 5:01 p.m.

    I made a home made zone scale that I placed on Pentax Spot meter back in the day. The spot meter was a great tool with film. My modern digital cameras have made it obsolete.

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 4, 2026, 6:31 p.m.

    Cool. There's a guy still selling stick-on Zone scales for various light-meters.

    www.shutterspeedblog.com/

    For a Weston Ranger 9:

    Weston Adams scale overlay.jpg

    For a Pentax spot-meter:

    i.etsystatic.com/7602174/r/il/bb8424/4268443572/il_1588xN.4268443572_7xd3.jpg

    Weston Adams scale overlay.jpg

    JPG, 1.1 MB, uploaded by xpatUSA on Jan. 4, 2026.

  • Members 254 posts
    Jan. 4, 2026, 9:57 p.m.

    I still have my Pentax Spotmeter V with my homemade zone scale stuck on it plus two Weston Master V meters with improvised zone scales on them. Sadly the selenium cells in the Weston Masters are shot. I also have the Bronica 6x6 with its set of Nikkor lenses and some unexposed 120 film - so who knows, one day…

    best wishes

    A

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 4, 2026, 11:07 p.m.

    I ordered this Master V a couple of days ago hoping that the cell is still good:

    www.ebay.com/itm/147007051917

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 4, 2026, 11:16 p.m.
  • Members 2630 posts
    Jan. 5, 2026, 2:40 a.m.

    i did a test yesterday the see how accurate the spot meter was on my a7iv compared to the muilti metering with the subject covering the whole frame. they were 1 stop apart, so not real accurate.

  • Members 158 posts
    Jan. 5, 2026, 3:35 a.m.

    What did you shoot, a wall ?

    Ron

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 5, 2026, 3:52 a.m.

    Donald, how did you measure the accuracy of the spot-meter? Did you know the luminance of the presumably homogenous subject? Do you know the K constant of the camera's reflective metering? If you did, you could see if the reflective metering equation t/(N^2)=K/(SL) balances ...

    For example, if f-number N=8, const K=12.5, ISO S=100 and luminance L=2000 then shutter period t should equal (N^2).K/(SL) = 1/250 sec.

  • edit

    Thread title has been changed from Adams' Zones and my Weston Master 6 Light-meter.

  • Members 2630 posts
    Jan. 8, 2026, 7:32 a.m.

    i used a 500x500mm concrete stepping stone lit by clouded natural sun light. i didnt take an image just the camera exposure reading.
    i also went to use my vintage light meter that ive had for years and the cell has gone 😌 so i pulled it apart and there is not even a resistor in sight just the cell
    and the meter.

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 8, 2026, 2:54 p.m.

    Do you remember the readings?

    I estimate that your spot-meter function should recommend about 14 Ev for concrete under that lighting. If you shot at f/8, that would work out to 1/256 sec - pretty close to my earlier estimate.

    Sorry to hear that. However, there is actually no need for a resistor in vintage selenium-cell light-meters; the meter itself is scaled to match the cell output characteristic i,e, scrunched up at both ends. See my earlier shot of the Weston 6 meter.

    meter crop.JPG

    See for example the difference in distance between 32-64 and 125-250. For true log scaling they would be equal distances.

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  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 9, 2026, 1:10 a.m.

    Just received my fancy luxmeter which can also display foot-candles (fc). So I put my Weston 6 under the desk lamp - it told me 24 fc. Then the luxmeter set to fc - it said 51 fc. About -1 Ev error if the +/- 5% accuracy luxmeter is to be believed.

    But the Weston is designed for reflective measure and the luxmeter obviously for incident measure. Hopefully my "new" Master V will come with the 'Invercone' accessory which converts it to an incident light meter, allowing a more proper comparison.

  • Members 2630 posts
    Jan. 9, 2026, 8:46 a.m.

    i will do another test and let you know what the readings are, i have a pentax ME somewhere, might have to find it and see what it reads.

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    JPG, 3.1 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on Jan. 9, 2026.

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 9, 2026, 12:17 p.m.

    Thanks Donald. Looking forward to them.

    [edit] duh, I didn't know that the ME is camera. So when you find it, this might be useful:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qOGD_O2GqI
    [/edit]

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 11, 2026, 5:45 p.m.

    Received the Master V today ... very nice physical condition ...

    ... but the needle barely moves, even when held close to my desk lamp; it should read about 2000 foot-candles; even my Weston 6 reads 1400 fc there ... I could set the ASA lower to compensate but not sure if that would work at all light values ...

  • Members 254 posts
    Jan. 11, 2026, 6:55 p.m.

    Sorry to hear this, but my understanding is that very few selenium cells have survived. I seem to remember that they are repairable by independents, but I can’t point you to anyone specific.

    Best wishes

    A

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 11, 2026, 8:48 p.m.

    Yes, I was looking at some Weston Masters on ebay dot com earlier, most of them are "for parts" or summat like that.

    Two caught my eye: one said "tested - works", another said "meter in excellent condition" I sent appropriate questions to both just a few minutes ago.

    [edit] The "excellent condition" guy said it wasn't tested.

    They are less than 30 bucks each; so I'll probably take another chance and buy the "tested" one.

    There was another "tested" one - cheaper and closer to here ... so I just now took the plunge ...

  • Members 1290 posts
    Jan. 17, 2026, 2:36 a.m.

    Somewhat off-topic but, for those who like the idea of a separate and battery-less lightmeter, the Sekonic L-398A has a polymorphic silicon photocell which lasts for decades, if not centennia ...