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Adapted lenses with interesting bokeh shapes

simplejoy
May 6, 2023
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    simplejoy
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    May 26, 2023, 1:17 p.m. May 26, 2023, 1:17 p.m.
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    Another technique I like to experiment with from time to time is playing with bokeh in the foreground. It might be worth it to mention, that not every lens works equally well when it comes to bokeh in the foreground. It can be a recipe for disaster with some lenses which are very flare-prone and some lenses don't seem to be able to create a lot of pleasing bokeh there or at least not much in terms of bokeh balls...

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/51647319502_5e0b3b72b3_b.jpg
    The thought that bokeh is important... just brush it aside!
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    Shooting wide angle
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    Sorry for the meme... but this cake IS a lie!
    by simple.joy, on Flickr
    (faked steam)

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    Hello there! I'm kind of self-reflective.
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    ... but it was your own poison! I'm just a tool.
    by simple.joy, auf Flickr

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    No questions asked
    by simple.joy, auf Flickr

    Of course this is often the result of some trial and error, but it usually pays to experiment with different lenses, materials and lights.

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    simplejoy
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    June 9, 2023, 9:37 p.m. June 9, 2023, 9:37 p.m.
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    You think I'll stick out there, Mom?
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    simplejoy
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    July 18, 2023, 7:51 a.m. July 18, 2023, 7:51 a.m.
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    Here's a new capture of the star-variety:

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53052358916_d35daf645a_b.jpg
    Manipulating light with imperfect tools...
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    ErnstDinkla
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    July 18, 2023, 12:26 p.m. July 18, 2023, 12:26 p.m.
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    Triangular bokeh of a Ricoh FF1 lens 35mm 2.8 as mounted on A7RII

    www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4182092

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    simplejoy
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    July 18, 2023, 12:38 p.m. July 18, 2023, 12:38 p.m.
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    @ErnstDinkla has written:

    Triangular bokeh of a Ricoh FF1 lens 35mm 2.8 as mounted on A7RII

    www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4182092

    Thanks - looks great! I particularly like the shot of the red tree (I assume). Also quite the elaborate adaption you have once more - excellent work. I have no idea how close you're able to focus but if you have some closer shots highlighting the triangles even more, I'd love to see some of those here as well.

    I've already displayed a number of shots made with a couple of my triangular bokeh lenses, but here as some more:

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52219121749_7082386ba9_b.jpg
    Triangulating the essence of music
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    Enormous weight
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    Jester single moment
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    Ten up, ten down!
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    ErnstDinkla
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    July 18, 2023, 4:59 p.m. July 18, 2023, 4:59 p.m.
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    Front cell focusing so even if I could increase that the SA would become more dominant than anything else. The MFD is 90cm / 3' now and between 4.0-5.6 the aperture is more a ninja triangle so at least a Sony FE extension tube is needed to get that working with a tighter/triangle aperture. For macro adaptations I stick to M42 solutions though; mounts, tubes and bellows. And lenses with more blades or without blades.
    The aim here was to make a really small pancake lens with an acceptable image quality. You saw the old conversion, meanwhile it is a more 3D printed, more slick design with an extra ring added to handle the aperture better.

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    simplejoy
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    July 18, 2023, 5:09 p.m. July 18, 2023, 5:09 p.m.
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    @ErnstDinkla has written:

    Front cell focusing so even if I could increase that the SA would become more dominant than anything else. The MFD is 90cm / 3' now and between 4.0-5.6 the aperture is more a ninja triangle so at least a Sony FE extension tube is needed to get that working with a tighter/triangle aperture. For macro adaptations I stick to M42 solutions though; mounts, tubes and bellows. And lenses with more blades or without blades.
    The aim here was to make a really small pancake lens with an acceptable image quality. You saw the old conversion, meanwhile it is a more 3D printed, more slick design with an extra ring added to handle the aperture better.

    Fascinating! Thanks for the explanation. M42 is one of my preferred mounts to use as well, because there‘s a lot of stuff available for it and I also got custom recessed M42 lens boards for my bellows. In order to be able to use bigger lenses or reverse smaller ones inside of my bellows, I also use M58 a lot.

    I‘m continually impressed by your 3D printing abilities - is it hard to measure all of the necessary parameters? I wouldn‘t even know where to start. 😅

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    simplejoy
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    July 21, 2023, 8:43 a.m. July 21, 2023, 8:43 a.m.
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    Your choice!
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

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    ErnstDinkla
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    Aug. 5, 2023, 10:37 a.m. Aug. 5, 2023, 10:37 a.m.
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    With this thread in mind I had to make an adapter FE female to M42 male so I could use some FE mount converted lenses on the M42 helicoids or M42 bellows. Not usable for the native FE mount lenses without the aperture control added. The Ricoh FF1 35mm 2.8 pancake and one of the converted Fujinon 45mm lenses were used for the images.

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    JPG, 538.9 KB, uploaded by ErnstDinkla on Aug. 5, 2023.

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    JPG, 311.1 KB, uploaded by ErnstDinkla on Aug. 5, 2023.

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    simplejoy
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    Aug. 5, 2023, 11:37 a.m. Aug. 5, 2023, 11:37 a.m.
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    @ErnstDinkla has written:

    With this thread in mind I had to make an adapter FE female to M42 male so I could use some FE mount converted lenses on the M42 helicoids or M42 bellows. Not usable for the native FE mount lenses without the aperture control added. The Ricoh FF1 35mm 2.8 pancake and one of the converted Fujinon 45mm lenses were used for the images.

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    That's really great - thanks a lot for sharing those, I like the shape a lot! What was DSC09831 shot with? Seems to provide very nice possibilities for creating significantly sized triangles, which is always great.

    I had a conversation with someone on flickr about star-shaped bokeh lenses and while checking some of my lenses realized that the Asahi Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-Takumar 100 mm f/4 has a very interesting aperture. It's round wide open, then some ninja stars, then geometric stars, then an octagon and fully stopped down it's round again. The Leitz Summicron-DR 50 mm f/2 slightly similar, but doesn't show that variety of shapes. Found that very interesting.

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53088169441_2ab7365df6_b.jpg
    The bokeh is out of the bag...
    by simple.joy, auf Flickr

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    ErnstDinkla
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    Aug. 5, 2023, 7:27 p.m. Aug. 5, 2023, 7:27 p.m.
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    Triangular shapes of the Ricoh FF1 Rikenon 35mm 2.8
    Pentagonal shapes of the Fujica 35 EE Fujinon 45mm 1.9
    Salvaged lenses of compact cameras.

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    simplejoy
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    Aug. 5, 2023, 8:26 p.m. Aug. 5, 2023, 8:26 p.m.
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    @ErnstDinkla has written:

    Triangular shapes of the Ricoh FF1 Rikenon 35mm 2.8
    Pentagonal shapes of the Fujica 35 EE Fujinon 45mm 1.9
    Salvaged lenses of compact cameras.

    Thanks for clarifying - I always appreciate someone trying unusual lenses like that. As I've said before, I don't feel quite ready to try something like that, but at some point I've got to think of some solutions for the (non insignificant) number of lenses I still need to adapt properly. 😅

    BTW. have you created an overview of all your adapted/3D printed solutions and findings on those lenses on some kind of blog etc. or is all of that spread over on the dpreview forum for the most part? I think it would warrent its own kind of place or perhaps an article/series. As far as I'm aware not many are attempting adapting lenses which don't have a regular thread (do you know Matt's crazy lens adventures on flickr? He does use such lenses regularly, I think...) or an already existing adapter, so it would be great if it was documented somewhere.

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