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Convincing.

doctor
Feb. 18, 2025
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    doctor
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    Feb. 18, 2025, 7:37 p.m. Feb. 18, 2025, 7:37 p.m.
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    I would say her yes. To everything.
    In color, or in black and white?

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    JPG, 1.2 MB, uploaded by doctor on Feb. 18, 2025.

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    JPG, 1.6 MB, uploaded by doctor on Feb. 18, 2025.

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    davidwien
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    Feb. 18, 2025, 7:47 p.m. Feb. 18, 2025, 7:47 p.m.
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    I vote for the coloured version, as I think it looks more alive.

    David

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    Daneland
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    Feb. 18, 2025, 7:59 p.m. Feb. 18, 2025, 7:59 p.m.
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    Both of them are OK.

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    Bryan
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    Feb. 18, 2025, 10:24 p.m. Feb. 18, 2025, 10:24 p.m.
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    @Daneland has written:

    Both of them are OK.

    They are. But the colour one just happens to be a bit more OK...

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    doctor
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    Feb. 19, 2025, 6:09 p.m. Feb. 19, 2025, 6:09 p.m.
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    Thank you for your input, guys. I think I agree with you, this time the color version may be a little better...

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    Greg
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 1:06 a.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 1:06 a.m.
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    I converted your color photo into black and white in Photoshop CS5 with Martin Fuchs LAB BW conversion action from 2006 - - Yes, the blacks are strong, and it does add a little bit of noise.

    The converted image was sharpened in Lightroom 3 with an amount of 21
    No other adjustments were made.

    This is how I like and process most of my color to black and white images.

    A 2007 archived page of his website article can be found at this link below. The Photoshop .atn file is included.
    web.archive.org/web/20070228151451/http://www.journalofaphotographer.com/workflow_tutorials/tutorial_converting_color_images_to_black_and_white.php

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    PNG, 196.6 KB, uploaded by Greg on Feb. 20, 2025.

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    PNG, 37.4 KB, uploaded by Greg on Feb. 20, 2025.

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    Greg
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 3:03 a.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 3:03 a.m.
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    With black and white photos, I believe in letting the blacks be black. And as I have mentioned above, Martin’s LAB conversion PS action generates a small amount of noise.

    Learn to live with it ↓

    Photography is about seeing and having the ability to compose and capture an image, nothing else.
    Everyone has eyes, but very few people use them.

    If you like the darker effect, Doc, let me know, and with your permission, of course, I can upload the complete converted image here.

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    doctor
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 8:06 a.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 8:06 a.m.
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    @Greg has written:

    If you like the darker effect, Doc, let me know, and with your permission, of course, I can upload the complete converted image here

    Yes please, don't leave us halfway :-)
    And thank you for the link, I'll take a look…

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    davidwien
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 10:28 a.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 10:28 a.m.
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    @doctor has written:

    I would say her yes. To everything.
    In color, or in black and white?

    IMG_0024.jpeg

    IMG_0022.jpeg

    Looking at this again, the striking thing is that the man is in highly coloured clothes, while the woman has black trousers and a very dak blue sweater. Unless enlarged, the sweater actually looks black on my screen. Perhaps you can make the blue of her sweater a bit lighter.

    David

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    Ghundred
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 10:44 a.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 10:44 a.m.
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    Colour for the win. Easily

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    ArvoJ
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 11:17 a.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 11:17 a.m.
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    Can anyone make a version, where man is colored but everything other is monochrome? Or version, where both people are colored, but background is monochrome?

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    Greg
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 12:37 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 12:37 p.m.
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    Very good, Doc.

    There is a great deal happening in this photo, not to mention their eye contact and hand gestures. A second or two either way and it may have been a different story.
    As always, best viewed in fullscreen.

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    doctor
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 4:15 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 4:15 p.m.
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    @davidwien has written:
    @doctor has written:

    I would say her yes. To everything.
    In color, or in black and white?

    IMG_0024.jpeg

    IMG_0022.jpeg

    Looking at this again, the striking thing is that the man is in highly coloured clothes, while the woman has black trousers and a very dak blue sweater. Unless enlarged, the sweater actually looks black on my screen. Perhaps you can make the blue of her sweater a bit lighter.

    David

    ¡Hola David!
    Yes, there would be no problem in lightning that blue a little. But, on the other hand, I think the face, hair and hands stand out more if what surrounds them is darker...

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    doctor
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 4:16 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 4:16 p.m.
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    @Ghundred has written:

    Colour for the win. Easily

    ¡Hola! thanks for leaving your opinion…

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    doctor
    Members 763 posts
    Feb. 20, 2025, 4:19 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 4:19 p.m.
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    @ArvoJ has written:

    Can anyone make a version, where man is colored but everything other is monochrome? Or version, where both people are colored, but background is monochrome?

    ¡Hola! i have to say I am not usually a big fan of this type of treatment but, yes, it is possible to do it with some simple masks...

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    doctor
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 4:54 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 4:54 p.m.
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    @Greg has written:

    Very good, Doc.

    There is a great deal happening in this photo, not to mention their eye contact and hand gestures. A second or two either way and it may have been a different story.
    As always, best viewed in fullscreen.

    20250220-z.jpg

    Hello again, Greg, thanks for taking the time to do so.
    Yes, I thought it was a nice scene, and I was very lucky with the timing of the shot (that hand!).
    Regarding the version you uploaded, there are things that I like, like those punchy blacks, but I think there are areas in which they have gone a little too far (like in the area of ​​the legs, which have lost their contour and the symmetry they had with the boy's).
    On the other hand, the method you use does not allow you to discriminate by color, which can be very useful with skies, faces...
    I upload a second version, with a little more punch in the blacks. It's a subtle change, something intermediate between the first one I uploaded and yours...

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    JPG, 1.4 MB, uploaded by doctor on Feb. 20, 2025.

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    Greg
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 6:14 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 6:14 p.m.
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    Yes, that’s okay, Doc.
    Of course, all of this is totally subjective and often comes down to personal taste.
    I like vanilla ice cream, and you like chocolate chip. lol

    For quite some time now, I have preferred the grunge look in photography with its raw, gritty, and dirty aesthetic.
    Lomography was my first love.

    oh… I like this scooter shot that you posted a month ago.

    dprevived.com/media/attachments/d2/d9/TCDcBvOdw2CCd4RyuzeZQdo9tDHzEfRfMM9k37Nr3MgBHDVOBNwIA5fhZhkdPUMX/img-9800.jpeg
    dprevived.com/t/mp3/6828/#post-93567

    I once had a Coolpix P310 - - but I accidentally killed it!

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    doctor
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    Feb. 20, 2025, 7:30 p.m. Feb. 20, 2025, 7:30 p.m.
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    Thank you Greg.
    That little 310 was the direct ancestor of my 330 and the later 340. They were great cameras, and it's a shame that Nikon abandoned this type of advanced compact, killing the DL series before it was born...

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