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Cross polarization demonstration

JimKasson
July 12, 2023
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    JimKasson
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    July 12, 2023, 3:43 a.m. July 12, 2023, 3:43 a.m.
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    Normal

    _A731238.jpg

    Cross polarized:

    _A731236.jpg

    _A731236.jpg

    JPG, 120.1 KB, uploaded by JimKasson on July 12, 2023.

    _A731238.jpg

    JPG, 169.9 KB, uploaded by JimKasson on July 12, 2023.

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    TimRichards
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    July 12, 2023, 7:06 a.m. July 12, 2023, 7:06 a.m.
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    Jim - serious question, which do you like better, and why?

    Tim

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    JimKasson
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    July 12, 2023, 11:55 a.m. July 12, 2023, 11:55 a.m.
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    @TimRichards has written:

    Jim - serious question, which do you like better, and why?

    Tim

    I like the cross polarized one better, but if it weren’t a demo, I would have left a little specularity in the image.

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    CAcreeks
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    July 12, 2023, 3:42 p.m. July 12, 2023, 3:42 p.m.
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    @JimKasson has written:
    @TimRichards has written:

    Jim - serious question, which do you like better, and why?

    Tim

    I like the cross polarized one better, but if it weren’t a demo, I would have left a little specularity in the image.

    Other way around for me.

    Did you use polarized flash in conjunction with a circular polarizer on your lens? (As in the shoe demo on YouTube.)

    When I look back at old film photos, I don't like the effect of my polarizer. Sky is too purple - opposite of ESPN where sky is too cyan.

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    JimKasson
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    July 12, 2023, 3:50 p.m. July 12, 2023, 3:50 p.m.
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    @CAcreeks has written:

    Did you use polarized flash in conjunction with a circular polarizer on your lens?

    Polarized flash with straight polarizer on lens.

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    JimKasson
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    July 12, 2023, 3:52 p.m. July 12, 2023, 3:52 p.m.
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    @CAcreeks has written:

    When I look back at old film photos, I don't like the effect of my polarizer. Sky is too purple - opposite of ESPN where sky is too cyan.

    That sounds like some kind of hue twist in the film.

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    IliahBorg
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    July 12, 2023, 4:06 p.m. July 12, 2023, 4:06 p.m.
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    @JimKasson has written:
    @CAcreeks has written:

    Did you use polarized flash in conjunction with a circular polarizer on your lens?

    Polarized flash with straight polarizer on lens.

    I use linear polarizers most of the times. In my experience they introduce less colour artifacts. The need in circular ones IMHO is overstated by marketing (the FUD thing).

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    petrochemist
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    July 12, 2023, 5:44 p.m. July 12, 2023, 5:44 p.m.
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    I can see a reduction in the reflections on the leaves in the crossed polariser version, but that reduction is what I would expect to see with normal polariser use.
    How was your 'normal' shot taken, a polariser on the lens but unpolarised lighting, might explain my confusion.

    When I use crossed polarisers it's to get very different effects like this:
    live.staticflickr.com/890/41468699545_fca685c025_o.jpgstressed stencil by Mike Kanssen, on Flickr

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    davidwien
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    July 12, 2023, 5:49 p.m. July 12, 2023, 5:49 p.m.
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    I prefer the first picture: even though still, it has much more life in it.

    I have given up using polarizers, because I have started using wider angle lenses. But I must see if I still have linear varieties that will fit my current lenses and re-evaluate them.

    David

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    JimKasson
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    July 12, 2023, 6:36 p.m. July 12, 2023, 6:36 p.m.
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    @petrochemist has written:

    How was your 'normal' shot taken, a polariser on the lens but unpolarised lighting, might explain my confusion.

    No polarizers for lens or lighting for the normal shot. Light was turned down to compensate.

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    simplejoy
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    July 12, 2023, 7:44 p.m. July 12, 2023, 7:44 p.m.
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    Great demonstration! As I've mentioned in another thread, having a gallery with a kind of before/after or A/B slider would be a great thing to have for things like that...

    I feel like in some situations it's great to have a couple of versions like that so you can create different blends afterwards. I would probably go with something like this:

    _A731236_JimKasson.jpg

    The great thing about doing that after the fact, is that you can apply/limit a certain look to certain parts. I have a polarizer somewhere but not used it in ages. Need to go look for it though - it certainly can be a very effective tool.

    _A731236_JimKasson.jpg

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    JimKasson
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    July 12, 2023, 8:11 p.m. July 12, 2023, 8:11 p.m.
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    @simplejoy has written:

    The great thing about doing that after the fact, is that you can apply/limit a certain look to certain parts.

    Good idea.

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    TonyBeach
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    July 13, 2023, 5:52 a.m. July 13, 2023, 5:52 a.m.
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    I like that the specular highlights are removed, but the colors seem overly subdued. I'm thinking some PP would restore the color and result in the best of both worlds.

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    SrMi
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    July 14, 2023, 1:01 a.m. July 14, 2023, 1:01 a.m.
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    @IliahBorg has written:
    @JimKasson has written:
    @CAcreeks has written:

    Did you use polarized flash in conjunction with a circular polarizer on your lens?

    Polarized flash with straight polarizer on lens.

    I use linear polarizers most of the times. In my experience they introduce less colour artifacts. The need in circular ones IMHO is overstated by marketing (the FUD thing).

    Isn't PDAF sometimes hampered by linear polarizers?

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    IliahBorg
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    July 14, 2023, 1:03 a.m. July 14, 2023, 1:03 a.m.
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    @SrMi has written:
    @IliahBorg has written:
    @JimKasson has written:
    @CAcreeks has written:

    Did you use polarized flash in conjunction with a circular polarizer on your lens?

    Polarized flash with straight polarizer on lens.

    I use linear polarizers most of the times. In my experience they introduce less colour artifacts. The need in circular ones IMHO is overstated by marketing (the FUD thing).

    Isn't PDAF sometimes hampered by linear polarizers?

    When I have time to tune in the polarizing angle I also have time for manual focus ;)

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    JimKasson
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    July 14, 2023, 1:05 a.m. July 14, 2023, 1:05 a.m.
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    @SrMi has written:

    Isn't PDAF sometimes hampered by linear polarizers?

    I don't use autofocus for macro and still life work, which is where I sometimes use cross polarization.

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