• Members 96 posts
    March 29, 2023, 7:48 a.m.

    I find this unlikely. DPR isn't a particularly important part of Amazon, so I don't think anyone in sufficiently high position of power cares much about what's discussed on one acquisition of theirs that's about to get axed.

    I think it's just an attempt to concentrate all talks about the site being shutdown to a minimal number of threads. There doesn't seem to be particularly consistent policy about this on different forums how this is handled. As for the idea of attempting to handle it like this, I can kind of understand the reasoning, even though I don't think it's working well at all in practice. Kind of like trying to herd a large number of cats.

  • Members 5 posts
    March 29, 2023, 8:07 a.m.
  • Members 510 posts
    March 29, 2023, 8:07 a.m.

    I agree. But some mods may have a different agenda.

  • March 29, 2023, 8:16 a.m.

    This is an individual moderator decision. The moderator in question has been very supportive, but seems to have a very strict idea of where threads should go and not allowing off-topic on the forums he moderates. Don't see it as a plot, different moderators can have widely different ideas on what the role is - which is why we need a very clear moderation oplicy here.

  • Members 25 posts
    March 29, 2023, 5:09 p.m.

    (that hopefully doesn't involve those moderators).

  • Members 1 post
    March 29, 2023, 5:42 p.m.

    Just came here (and registered) after hearing about the site for several days. There are several mentions in the DPR Canon EOS R forum's "where to go now" thread about this site, and they have not been taken down. Fingers crossed for us DPRefugees' new home, if this is it!

  • Members 621 posts
    March 29, 2023, 6:03 p.m.

    Good to see you here. Nice seeing all the familiar names pop up.

  • March 29, 2023, 6:20 p.m.

    I'm not so sure. It's easy to see some of the moderators as being malicious, but I think in the end they had very little detailed guidance or thought through policy from DPReview and ended up having to make decisions beyond their pay grade - and they aren't paid anything. They aren't bad people, and with clear policies and supportive feedback would likely do the job very well. I think they were mostly acting from good intentions.

  • Members 6 posts
    March 29, 2023, 6:23 p.m.

    Absolutely nothing to do with DPR censoring. We have several thread of alternative sites in the m43 forum, and none of them have been locked or deleted. It has to be a specific moderator's decision to do so. Maybe they want to keep just one thread live at a time, which might be somehow useful (Although i don't see how), but to me makes no sense. Especially when your moderation privileges will cease to exist in less than 2 weeks.

  • Members 21 posts
    March 29, 2023, 6:36 p.m.

    On dpreview this new site is posted on the “site feedback and help” forum by a moderator

  • Members 1737 posts
    March 29, 2023, 8:29 p.m.

    We now have guidance from staff. Don't delete or lock threads that don't violate DPR guidelines.

    Or, without the double negative, let threads that conform to DPR guidelines alone.

    IMHO, a sensible approach.

  • Members 6 posts
    March 29, 2023, 8:45 p.m.

    That has been my moderation behavior for over 11 years. By the book.

  • Members 1737 posts
    March 29, 2023, 10:01 p.m.

    Me, too. But we now have guidance from DPR staff that the old rules apply to the new situation, together with a warning to mods to keep their thumbs off the scale wrt the competing sites. It was a while in coming, but I think they are doing the right thing.

  • March 29, 2023, 10:11 p.m.

    keeping their thumbs off the scale is not what I've just experienced, see this thread I started (note to self, try to avoid writing thread when angry!)
    dprevived.com/t/competition-versus-co-operation/510/

    I know you're a member there as well - which you have every right to be, and actually I have no hostility to him wanting to go it alone, it's the hypocrisy of him and the mod promoting him, going on about 'co-operation over competition' when they were the ones that rejected co-operation (or at least proposed co-operation in the same sense that Russia is co-operating with Ukraine). Still, as a result I've been sandboxed. Ho hum.

    I've just worked out what has happened there. That mod doesn't moderate that forum, so he can't ban me from the forum or delete posts there, so he sandboxed me to stop me posting a reply to him. Actually, that's rather funny.

  • Members 14 posts
    March 29, 2023, 10:18 p.m.

    Thank you for the information, Jim. Much appreciated.

    Aside - There are a few moderators I hope disappear with DPReview. They are most unpleasant persons.

  • Members 25 posts
    March 29, 2023, 10:27 p.m.

    I respect your opinion, but...
    Since I posted that, a friend on DPR made a comment over there about someone, and ended with "I've never seen him again". I made a joke saying "What, did you send a couple friends over for a visit?".... and that comment was removed. It happens a lot. Could be Smaug but I'd bet any money it's Mako. We've had a longer history. It's not necessary... it's malicious. I've modded places and you learn to just stay objective even if they irritate you. If they don't break rules, do nothing.

    I don't think they cared about guidance, Bob.... They enjoyed doing what they wanted.

  • Members 1 post
    March 30, 2023, 12:17 a.m.

    I came here just now after seeing it being mentioned on DPReview in the Ricoh Talk...

  • Members 184 posts
    March 30, 2023, 1:06 a.m.

    Just posted a 'goodbye' message on DPR with a link to this forum - and got it removed with a threat to be banned with the following explanation:

    And I just mentioned dprevived in the end of my message.

    This is the most unhelpful and harmful approach. What kind of 'regular' discussions they expect to see on the forum about to die and get wiped??

    The best thing DPR moderators/admins can do right now - stick a post with links to potential DPR successors on every single subforum. Moving topics and closing them because of already opened similar topics doesn't really help now. I think Amazon doesn't care about the links to the successor forums, and I'm disappointed in how DPR moderators handle it right now. The more links - the better. They must be on the very top.