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DxO PhotoLab + PureRaw FAQ ( technical information + manuals / tutorials only )

deejjjaaaa
April 1, 2023
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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m. April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m.
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    DxO PhotoLab + PureRaw FAQ ( technical information + manuals / tutorials only )

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m. April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m.
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    DxO = www.dxo.com/

    DxO support portal = support.dxo.com/hc/en-us

    DxO official forum = feedback.dxo.com/


    French DxO subforum @ www.chassimages.com ( use translate.google.com ) = www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php/board,34.0.html

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m. April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m.
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    DxO PL6 official manual = download-center.dxo.com/Support/docs/PhotoLab_v6/user-guide/PL6_manual_EN.pdf

    DxO PL6 release notes = download-center.dxo.com/Support/docs/PhotoLab_v6/release-notes/PL6_release-note_win_EN.pdf

    DxO PL6 "WideGamut" Process white paper = www.dxo.com/tech-news/white-paper-wide-gamut/


    DxO PhotoLab tutorials = tutodxo.com/en/tutorials/

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m. April 1, 2023, 12:20 p.m.
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    --- official videos ---

    DxO official channel = www.youtube.com/@DxOLabs

    --- unofficial videos ---

    Photolab Tutorials from Rob Trek = www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyBjgg0NvOrPObBf4ku-bfilBoFKYjeuL

    Eddy Kinol (French - use autogenerated/translated CC) = youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZIlLzZ_ubHMqa6rsgDFOFAhNDjVvX77W

    DxFlow youtube channel = www.youtube.com/@dxflow3271/search?query=dxo

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 1, 2023, 12:21 p.m. April 1, 2023, 12:21 p.m.
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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 1, 2023, 12:21 p.m. April 1, 2023, 12:21 p.m.
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    -- DxO PL6 vs Adobe DNG / DCP tags --

    i.postimg.cc/Bt10NvsF/keep-calm-and-sacr-bleu.png

    tested for 6.4.0.158

    Adobe DNG Standard v1.6 ( most recent as of now ) = helpx.adobe.com/content/dam/help/en/photoshop/pdf/dng_spec_1_6_0_0.pdf


    Tag 0хC62A "BaselineExposure" :

    DxO PL6 completely ignores this tag (its value if present) in DNG files ( both in "Classic (Legacy)" and "DxO Wide Gamut" pipelines )


    Tag 0хC7A5 "BaselineExposureOffset" :

    "Classic (Legacy)" pipeline = DxO PL6 completely ignores this tag (its value if present) in DCP camera profiles

    "DxO Wide Gamut" pipeline = DxO PL6 applies tag value (if present, if not present treats as 0.0) from DCP camera profiles


    Tag 0xC7A6 "DefaultBlackRender" : -- as of v6.5 no changes, so this "When applying a DCP Color Rendering, black clipping is not produced anymore. To further adjust the black level, use the Black slider in the Selective Tones palette" from v6.5 release notes does not change how differently 2 color transform pipeline treat this DNG tag in DCP camera profiles

    "Classic (Legacy)" pipeline = DxO PL6 honors the tag (if the tag is absent then treats as = 0) in DCP camera profiles

    "DxO Wide Gamut" pipeline = DxO PL6 ignores the tag (present or absent) in DCP camera profiles


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    Mujanast
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    April 1, 2023, 5:17 p.m. April 1, 2023, 5:17 p.m.
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    Thank you deejjjaaaa! Nice overview!

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    Thread title has been changed from DxO PhotoLab + PureRaw thread ( technical information + manuals / tutorials only ).

    • By deejjjaaaa on April 3, 2023, 11:10 a.m..
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    MarshallG
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    April 5, 2023, 1:53 p.m. April 5, 2023, 1:53 p.m.
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    The most important thing to know:
    PhotoLab is a superset of PureRAW, so if you buy PhotoLab, you don’t need PureRAW.

    PhotoLab is much like Lightroom, a stand-alone RAW editor with DxO’s DeepPRIME noise reduction, their lens corrections, and so on. PureRAW is intended for Lightroom who want a plug-in which adds the DeepPRIME features. So for instance, you can’t adjust white balance, exposure, and shadows with PureRAW. You can use PureRAW as a standalone product, but then you won’t have brightness/shadow and similar functionality.

    I hope this helps. I bought the two products together as a bundle from DxO and it made no sense, once I began to use them.

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    SrMi
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    April 6, 2023, 2:25 a.m. April 6, 2023, 2:25 a.m.
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    @MarshallG has written:

    The most important thing to know:
    PhotoLab is a superset of PureRAW, so if you buy PhotoLab, you don’t need PureRAW.

    PhotoLab is much like Lightroom, a stand-alone RAW editor with DxO’s DeepPRIME noise reduction, their lens corrections, and so on. PureRAW is intended for Lightroom who want a plug-in which adds the DeepPRIME features. So for instance, you can’t adjust white balance, exposure, and shadows with PureRAW. You can use PureRAW as a standalone product, but then you won’t have brightness/shadow and similar functionality.

    I hope this helps. I bought the two products together as a bundle from DxO and it made no sense, once I began to use them.

    I have both. Using DxO's PureRAW is simpler and quicker than using PhotoLab.

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    davidwien
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    April 9, 2023, 6:29 p.m. April 9, 2023, 6:29 p.m.
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    Thanks for gathering all this info together. I am a PL5 Elite user.

    David

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 12, 2023, 7:28 p.m. April 12, 2023, 7:28 p.m.
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    v6.5 release notes = "When applying a DCP Color Rendering, black clipping is not produced anymore. To further adjust the black level, use the Black slider in the Selective Tones palette"

    did they finally fix this matter either way to make it consistent between 2 color transform pipelines ?

    Tag C7A6 "DefaultBlackRender" :

    "Classic (Legacy)" pipeline = DxO PL6 honors the tag (if the tag is absent then treats as = 0) in DCP camera profiles

    "DxO Wide Gamut" pipeline = DxO PL6 ignores the tag (present or absent) in DCP camera profiles

    no they did NOT - old behavior still persists in v6.5

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    CrashpcCZ
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    April 17, 2023, 4:11 p.m. April 17, 2023, 4:11 p.m.
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    Great! Many thanks for the info. Will try PureRAW for denoise then. ❤️

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    AlainCh2
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    April 25, 2023, 7:49 p.m. April 25, 2023, 7:49 p.m.
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    -I suppose it's the right spot to ask a stupid question on DXO-PL6-

    What do I buy for 219€, a permanent license or an annual fee? ... and what softwares are included ?

    • Organizer, Editor, Denoiser, Focus Stacker, or what else?

    I looked on the DXO site but sadly I missed that piece of information. 🤷‍♂️

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    So far I have never used PP software. Only basic functions on Fastone.

    I don't like the idea to depend on 200€/year for Photoshop&LR with a so steep learning curve from zero.

    Correct me - as a retired non-professional casual shooter:
    If I buy PL6 and get used to that, I probably will not need to learn or move or anything else in the future.

    !!! I hate e-Pictures !!!

    e-Pictures?

    enhanced-Pictures
    edulcorated-Pictures
    electronic-Pictures

    ( Nothing to do with Photography )

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    PNG, 144.4 KB, uploaded by AlainCh2 on April 25, 2023.

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 25, 2023, 10:39 p.m. April 25, 2023, 10:39 p.m.
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    a permanent license or an annual fee?

    perpetual license for that version of software ...

    Editor, Denoiser

    NR is an integral feature of PL - what is called PureRaw is a castrated functionality of that same feature from PL

    Organizer

    not on par with LR of course

    consider reading DxO PL6 manual to understand what features are included

    also = support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/articles/6755441222301-What-are-the-differences-between-the-Essential-and-Elite-Edition-of-DxO-PhotoLab-

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    AnnieNg
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    April 26, 2023, 1:55 a.m. April 26, 2023, 1:55 a.m.
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    @AlainCh2 has written:

    What do I buy for 219€, a permanent license or an annual fee? ... and what softwares are included ?

    You may try PhotoLab 6 for free and check out what it really is and whether you like it or not.

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    AlainCh2
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    April 26, 2023, 9:03 a.m. April 26, 2023, 9:03 a.m.
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    @deejjjaaaa has written:

    consider reading DxO PL6 manual to understand what features are included

    Very good hint... thanks!!
    And it should be very fast as well. 👍

    • so far I suppose I will need to buy also a specific like Helicon for Stacking
    @AnnieNg has written:

    You may try PhotoLab 6 for free and check out what it really is and whether you like it or not.

    Yes, thanks.
    Considering the "learning curve" from Zero... 😒
    ...how much time will be spent just to understand what complex software is or isn't able to do in one direction or the other?

    ( I have an issue understanding what ACR meaning was used in these forums )

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    AlainCh2
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    April 26, 2023, 9:22 a.m. April 26, 2023, 9:22 a.m.
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    Some more help needed > I do understand "photography" and adapting my brain to e-cameras
    But I don't get so well with e-pictures:
    why a software like DXO has to "support" a Camera + Lenses...
    ...and I can't understand if it will support this combination.

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    I feel dumb, sorry to intrude

    ( even to ask, it's hard when you miss any reference )

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    PNG, 248.2 KB, uploaded by AlainCh2 on April 26, 2023.

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    AnnieNg
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    April 26, 2023, 9:47 a.m. April 26, 2023, 9:47 a.m.
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    @AlainCh2 has written:

    Considering the "learning curve" from Zero

    I actually learnt the PL6 (except Masking) faster and earlier than LrC. Therefore I think if anyone can use LrC, they should also be able to use PL6.

    @AlainCh2 has written:

    why a software like DXO has to "support" a Camera + Lenses

    Same as ACR in that it needs to read the raw file format and apply lens corrections. PhotoLab is unique in that the lens corrections are manually tested by DxO and applied when a camera/lens combination matches their database.

    Therefore it is important to trial before purchase, to make sure you camera/lens combo is supported by PhotoLab.

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    Flashlight
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    April 26, 2023, 11:33 a.m. April 26, 2023, 11:33 a.m.
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    It's also a business model. If you buy a new camera or lens that was recently launched you need to buy a new version of DxO. In a way it's the same as a subscription model like Adobe uses nowadays.

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    AnnieNg
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    April 26, 2023, 11:44 a.m. April 26, 2023, 11:44 a.m.
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    @Flashlight has written:

    If you buy a new camera or lens that was recently launched you need to buy a new version of DxO.

    Just to note that DxO is still updating PL5 to support new cameras (may not be new lenses). The latest version is 5.10 at the moment and it supports Canon R8 and R50. Of course you do not get the latest features (such as DeepPRIME XD) with PL5 updates. I hope DxO would continue to support PL6 when PL7 is released this Fall.

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    Flashlight
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    April 26, 2023, 2:24 p.m. April 26, 2023, 2:24 p.m.
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    BTW, a difference between ACR and PhotoLab is that you can create your own lens profiles for ACR. I did that when Adobe didn't timely come forward with a profile for the Nikon 16-80 lens.

    They supply checkerboard files in different sizes that you need to print (for wide angles these can become quite large). You then photograph these several times (corners, top, bottom center), feed them to the supplied program which then makes the profile. It's a bit of work, but relatively easy. I could not see a difference between my profile and the one from Adobe when it was finally released.

    It could be useful if you have older lenses or ones that are not mainstream.

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    deejjjaaaa
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    April 26, 2023, 4:34 p.m. April 26, 2023, 4:34 p.m.
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    @Flashlight has written:

    It's also a business model. If you buy a new camera or lens that was recently launched you need to buy a new version of DxO. In a way it's the same as a subscription model like Adobe uses nowadays.

    not exactly - Adobe still allows ( or actually forces you ) a customer to use optics correction data that is present in raw file itself... however Adobe for whatever reason does not let you for example to use optics correction that Canon writes for Canon lenses in raw files ... while DxO does not let you to use that same info for all camera makes ... which is bad for customers, as they have to wait till DxO ( when and IF ) makes a profile, instead of at least for the time being use the optics corrections supplied by manufacturer

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    AlainCh2
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    April 26, 2023, 5:17 p.m. April 26, 2023, 5:17 p.m.
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    Dowloaded DXO PL6 ... opened it ....
    hmm.... 👀
    I need to spend time just recognizing where to put my moussseeeee!!!!
    😂
    Hahaha !!

    ( Sure I will not become crazy ❌ shooting ASIS is good enough for me )

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    deejjjaaaa
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    May 10, 2023, 10:30 p.m. May 10, 2023, 10:30 p.m.
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    DxO has written:

    on 10 May 2023 we have added support of new cameras and lenses for DxO PhotoLab 6, DxO PhotoLab 5, DxO FilmPack 6, DxO PureRAW 3, DxO ViewPoint 4.

    Cameras newly supported are

    Hasselblad X2D
    One exception : it will be available fr DxO PhotoLab 5 and 6 on May 16th, due to internal delay.

    Lenses newly supported are

    Fuji XF 56mm F1.2 R WR
    Nikkor Z 85mm F1.2 S
    Leica APO Summicron SL 75mm F2 ASPH
    Leica Vario Elmarit SL 24-70mm F2.8 ASPH
    Sigma 60-600mm F4.5-6.3 DG DN OS (L-mount)
    Sigma 60-600mm F4.5-6.3 DG DN OS with TC-1411 (L-mount)
    Sigma 60-600mm F4.5-6.3 DG DN OS with TC-2011 (L-mount)

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