• Members 322 posts
    Sept. 1, 2024, 1:56 p.m.

    HAND.

  • Sept. 1, 2024, 2:31 p.m.

    finnan, you stole my idea :( :)

    OK then, I show something other. This is my last attempt :)

    To access raw file I had to install NX Studio, fortunately it's free. From raw I could recover some more of shadow information and create different result, again with help of Corel PSP, using local tone mapping and fill light. No cropping this time.

    DSC_3998 - edit me an image_002.jpg

    DSC_3998 - edit me an image_002.jpg

    JPG, 11.8 MB, uploaded by ArvoJ on Sept. 1, 2024.

  • Members 694 posts
    Sept. 1, 2024, 4:33 p.m.

    edit me-5.jpg

    edit me-5.jpg

    JPG, 2.4 MB, uploaded by Sagittarius on Sept. 1, 2024.

  • Members 1570 posts
    Sept. 1, 2024, 9:02 p.m.

    The storm approaches

    edit me an image_V02.jpg

    edit me an image_V02.jpg

    JPG, 9.0 MB, uploaded by Maoby on Sept. 1, 2024.

  • Members 4254 posts
    Sept. 1, 2024, 11:30 p.m.

    No problem.

    You or anyone else might be wondering why I deleted my entries.

    In the weekly Wednesday C&C thread you choose to ignore my images there and have never commented on them. That is fine and I have no issue with that as they are not everyone's cup of tea. A few other members also choose to not comment on them and some do comment, both positively and negatively.

    Since ArvoJ commented on all the entries in the previous thread here, I am not going to put you in the awkward position in this thread of maybe feeling obliged to comment on my images when you prefer not to.

    If I remember, I'll put them back after you post your comments on the other entries.

  • Members 4254 posts
    Sept. 2, 2024, 1 a.m.

    I wouldn't read too much into the amount of noise in the raw/tif vs jpeg users because it really depends on the amount of noise reduction, if any, applied to any of the 3 formats.

    Any reputable denoising app will do a good job of removing the noise in the jpeg.

    Your jpeg is not of a low light scene where noise removal from a jpeg could be problematic.

  • Members 676 posts
    Sept. 2, 2024, 5:51 a.m.

    GB's edit.jpg

    GB's edit.jpg

    JPG, 3.5 MB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Sept. 2, 2024.

  • Members 694 posts
    Sept. 2, 2024, 10:08 p.m.

    edit me-3.jpg

    edit me-3.jpg

    JPG, 1.4 MB, uploaded by Sagittarius on Sept. 2, 2024.

  • Members 1647 posts
    Sept. 4, 2024, 3:13 p.m.

    I'm still playing with emulations of vintage stuff...

    sepia.jpg

    sepia.jpg

    JPG, 1014.1 KB, uploaded by minniev on Sept. 4, 2024.

  • Members 219 posts
    Sept. 5, 2024, 12:56 a.m.

    That spoilt the family fun

    That spoilt the family fun.jpg

    That spoilt the family fun.jpg

    JPG, 3.2 MB, uploaded by Andrew546 on Sept. 5, 2024.

  • Members 1171 posts
    Sept. 5, 2024, 1:10 a.m.

    😂 , I needed that...

  • Members 929 posts
    Sept. 8, 2024, 8:21 p.m.

    Still time enough left to add any last entries and to add in your votes.
    Good luck to you all !

  • Members 1570 posts
    Sept. 11, 2024, 1:11 a.m.

    The tension is unbearable! 😱

  • Members 929 posts
    Sept. 11, 2024, 7:57 a.m.

    Congratulations to GreatBustard for winning this "Edit me an image-Number 2" thread, in this close finish contest. :-)
    You can now choose one of your images and see what the community makes of it with this fun editing thread. Please make a new thread and copy/paste in Arvo's rules and pick a closing date.

    Many thanks to all for participating.
    I'll post some comments to the images a bit later today.

  • Members 929 posts
    Sept. 11, 2024, 5:03 p.m.

    Thanks again for your entries.
    I wanted to make one post now with all the images and a short comment on them.
    Turns out that is quite difficult (for me) to do that on my phone while on holiday :-(
    So, I'll make that comment post at the weekend when I return back home and sit in front of my PC again. Hope you don't mind the delay too much.

  • Members 929 posts
    Sept. 14, 2024, 12:09 p.m.

    Once again, Many thanks for your entries.
    This could be the start of a long running fun thread to see what others can make of one of your images.

    As promised here are some comments from me about all the different edited versions here.
    It has turned out to be a very long monster comment, so maybe future hosts could choose to make only a few comments on only a few selected images 😉

    These are, of course, just my opinions and you may have a different take 😊

    The comments are in the same order as the entries were added.
    The winning entry from GreatBustard is towards the end of this long post

    It was interesting to see the difference made by just flipping the image so that the family now move from left to right. This version seems to work intuitively better for me than my version which feels a bit cramped; as though in mine they are about to run up against a wall on the left edge.
    The shadows have been brightened nicely, to show more details and there’s not a lot of noise visible. The colours have been pimped quite a lot compared to “reality”, giving it a sort of sunset type feel. At first I thought it was over the top , but began to like it more as time went by.
    By starting with the RAW you managed to nicely recover the details of the highlights in the bright white ice sheet

    The same comments about the tone curve adjustments apply to this one too but the crop now gives us more details of the family, while losing some of the surrounding scenery.
    I guess it depends on what story you want to tell with the image. Both work well.

    😊

    This is cropping even more to “tell that story about the family”. The bright highlights in the ice sheet have been lost completely, but maybe that was intentional to give a more high key look to the result.
    The shadows although brighter, don’t reveal quite so much details in the dark clothes and the faces, which is a pity since this is the crop about the “family story”. The colours look reasonably realistic .

    B&W often works well in shots with snow and ice 😊
    Nice highlight details recovered here in that bright ice, the crop gives the family more space to move into. The shadows of the family are raised nicely to give lots of nice facial details.
    Also looks as if a bit of film grain has been added for effect. Works really well
    The contrast is well applied over the image to make the shot interesting with that darkened background but also retaining details like the bright line on the roof top which is picked out convincingly.

    I wasn’t entirely convinced by this edit. The crop works to show “the family story” and the darker colour and the details of the ice work well , but the overall saturation of the reds and greens look over the top to me.
    The lady’s white coat has been sort of unevenly brightened so that it looks a bit like it has a big dark stain at the front 😉
    The bright red faces of the couple look a bit strange. The overall colour nosie is quite high if you start pixel peeping here.

    The crop does tell “the family story”, although I think they could be brightened a bit more, they are still almost silhouettes here. The more blue colour of the ice in the forground works well although some of the highlights that are in the RAW were not there to start with in the JPG. As in my original shot, I think ,also in this crop, they have a little too less space in front of them.

    A pleasant result with a reasonably realistic view of what I saw on that day, The faces are clearly visible. Although ,perhaps the background could be a touch darker to highlight the family just a bit more

    Looks to me like a move to a more abstract take on the image. Certainly it's not a realistic view anymore and so now it becomes a matter of taste.
    Not sure, why but Andy Warhol came to mind when I first saw this version 😊

    Another abstract take on the image, the more you look at this, the more interesting it becomes. The crop works to give the family room to move and the processing is really quite “different”. Maybe it would fit in a series of abstracts, all using the same effect?

    The colours remain realistic here and it has a sort of hazy, misty effect applied to it which deliberately takes away the details to create a softer image.
    Not really my cup of tea, but it could definitely find a place in a set of “soft misty images”

    The family certainly pops and looks more "3D" here, nicely brightened and separated! And it retains details and low noise on the family
    One odd thing though is that the facial details of the boy seem to have almost disappeared?

    The scenery here in this area around lake Irrsee is beautiful, definitely worth a shot for that alone.
    The blue tone, contrast and detail all work here. If I had had a zoom lens pointed on that scene, I would have focused on those trees directly and improved the details even more.

    Another abstract version, a bit more difficult to look at with the high local contrast and those halos around the trees, but it is interesting to look at such a fun and different edit too

    Another abstract, amazing what the various options in our editing software programs can produce

    Great title !
    As mentioned about your first entry B&W works well for snowy scenes.
    Looks like you’ve somehow turned up the grain effect so much that it really does look like a snow storm and they are trying to get home as quickly as possible.

    THE WINNER !!!!
    Well done!!
    This is a very realistic view of the scene as I saw it. The colours look good, they are nice and gentle. The contrast is “just right” to show both the background scenery and the family without them competing too much with each other for attention. The background has been brightened and enhanced to show the forest and mountain details, and the ice shows the bright highlights and the darker parts in a convincing way

    It was my favourite too 😊

    Another abstract with what looks like a “green sky“ this time.
    Not really my cup of tea but interesting to see

    AND SECOND PLACE GOES TO MINNIEV
    Well done , It was a close finish with a tie right up to the end.
    Taking a different view by selecting only the background scenery with a panorama framing and adding that vintage feeling with sepia toning and framing .
    Nice result !!

    Oops, where did they go ?
    A bit of comedy in the last entry.
    I mentioned in my original post that I try to avoid walking on lake ice. You’ve shown us exactly the reason for that😊
    Pulling two kids on a small sledge on lake ice also seemed a bit precarious to me, but it was thankfully very thick and strong on that day !

    That’s all folks !
    Over to GreatBustard now

  • Sept. 14, 2024, 12:49 p.m.

    Thank you very much for your analysis!

    About the winner taking thread over - I have not heard of GreatBustard for some days, I hope he's well.
    I think we will wait a few days more and if he does not appear, then we should give chance to minniev for second place - what do other users think?

  • Members 1570 posts
    Sept. 14, 2024, 1:35 p.m.

    I agree

    And congratulations to Fireplace33, for this colossal work. 👍🏻
    Winning almost becomes a punishment, in my eyes. 😂

  • Members 929 posts
    Sept. 14, 2024, 2:09 p.m.

    😂
    Thanks Maoby, I did have some time to kill this morning, as it's raining continously outside at the moment !
    so not so bad,...
    But you're right though, comments at the end from the host should definitely be only optional.
    I suggest the next winner just makes some comments for a few selected entries, or even just some general comments or even none at all :-)
    ... All under the moto of keep it simple and do whatever he/she likes :-)

  • Members 4254 posts
    Sept. 14, 2024, 10:57 p.m.

    It is a "punishment" in a way because the op of the new thread is not allowed to post his/her suggested edits to the starter image and their techniques.

    To me this is grossly opposed to the assumed intentions of these threads to share editing ideas and techniques.

    In any thread the "winner" has the option to decline starting the next thread for whatever reason and pass it on to the runner(s) up.

    Or you could set a rule saying you cannot start 2 threads in a row.

  • Members 4254 posts
    Sept. 14, 2024, 11:29 p.m.

    Of course. I haven't seen anything that suggests otherwise.

    The op's comments are just one person's opinions.

    Given the intention of these threads is to suggest edits and share techniques, all participants should be allowed to comment/ask questions at any time up to the closing time or at least afterwards, not just the op.

  • Sept. 15, 2024, 10:37 a.m.

    You are all overthinking this. It's just a bit of fun. Let the OP decide the "rules" - and if you don't agree with them, move on.

    Alan

  • Members 4254 posts
    Sept. 15, 2024, 7:05 p.m.

    Yes, that's a great idea.

    Having the op set the rules will allow more variety in the "challenges".

  • Sept. 17, 2024, 6:24 p.m.

    Looks like @GreatBustard doesn't want (or more likely just can't) to join us and start next round of the "Edit me an image". Thereby I ask our current round runner-up minniev to start the next, third round of competiton.

    @minniev, you have the honour (or was it punishment?) :)