ROTFL! Pot calling the kettle black?
David
ROTFL! Pot calling the kettle black?
David
@DannoLeftForums has written: @TechTalk has written:How do you discuss precision as a topic without ever mentioning the word precision?
We're getting way off topic now. Perhaps start your own thread if you want to discuss further.
I posted earlier why we'll just have to disagree on this one
ROTFL! Pot calling the kettle black?
David
I don't understand what you mean.
Are you saying your post
ROTFL! Pot calling the kettle black?
is on topic? 🤣
After some back and forth with chatGPT:
how about this revised definition: exposure is the process of allowing light to pass through the camera's entrance pupil and affect the exposed medium for a specified period of time, with the camera settings adjusted to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil?
This definition emphasizes that the process of exposure is fundamentally about allowing light to affect the exposed medium, while still acknowledging the importance of adjusting camera settings to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil.
On first look, I am happy with that description.
"Entrance Pupil" ????? Never heard a lens called that before.
Alan
"Entrance Pupil" ????? Never heard a lens called that before.
Alan
It's a little strange n this context, but not incorrect, and it brings the aperture into the, ahem, picture:
"Entrance Pupil" ????? Never heard a lens called that before.
Alan
You know, in a general terms, it doesn't have to be camera, sensor or lens. You can expose anything on/to anything. General terms and correctness make it harder to explain and understand. There is always a reason to attack almost any word.
After some back and forth with chatGPT:
Quoted message:how about this revised definition: exposure is the process of allowing light to pass through the camera's entrance pupil and affect the exposed medium for a specified period of time, with the camera settings adjusted to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil?
Quoted message:This definition emphasizes that the process of exposure is fundamentally about allowing light to affect the exposed medium, while still acknowledging the importance of adjusting camera settings to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil.
On first look, I am happy with that description.
You caught ChatGPT on a good day. This is what chatGPT tells me (it's wrong!):
Exposure in photography refers to the amount of light that reaches the camera's sensor or film when taking a photograph. It is determined by three factors: shutter speed, aperture, and ISO sensitivity.
@CrashpcCZ has written:After some back and forth with chatGPT:
Quoted message:how about this revised definition: exposure is the process of allowing light to pass through the camera's entrance pupil and affect the exposed medium for a specified period of time, with the camera settings adjusted to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil?
Quoted message:This definition emphasizes that the process of exposure is fundamentally about allowing light to affect the exposed medium, while still acknowledging the importance of adjusting camera settings to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil.
On first look, I am happy with that description.
You caught ChatGPT on a good day. This is what chatGPT tells me (it's wrong!):
Exposure in photography refers to the amount of light that reaches the camera's sensor or film when taking a photograph. It is determined by three factors: shutter speed, aperture, and ISO sensitivity.
Well, you see - the higher you crank your ISO, the more invisible little ISO fairies pop out of your camera and start pushing and squeezing extra photons through your lens and toward the sensor. It's all perfectly sensible!
@CrashpcCZ has written:After some back and forth with chatGPT:
Quoted message:how about this revised definition: exposure is the process of allowing light to pass through the camera's entrance pupil and affect the exposed medium for a specified period of time, with the camera settings adjusted to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil?
Quoted message:This definition emphasizes that the process of exposure is fundamentally about allowing light to affect the exposed medium, while still acknowledging the importance of adjusting camera settings to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil.
On first look, I am happy with that description.
You caught ChatGPT on a good day. This is what chatGPT tells me (it's wrong!):
Exposure in photography refers to the amount of light that reaches the camera's sensor or film when taking a photograph. It is determined by three factors: shutter speed, aperture, and ISO sensitivity.
Doesn't ISO setting on the camera determines A or S in any auto modes for any given scene (lighting)?
Doesn't ISO setting on the camera determines A or S in any auto modes for any given scene (lighting)?
How does one know what ISO to set?
@sagittarius has written:Doesn't ISO setting on the camera determines A or S in any auto modes for any given scene (lighting)?
How does one know what ISO to set?
One does not, but ISO is set to something anyway
@SrMi has written: @CrashpcCZ has written:After some back and forth with chatGPT:
Quoted message:how about this revised definition: exposure is the process of allowing light to pass through the camera's entrance pupil and affect the exposed medium for a specified period of time, with the camera settings adjusted to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil?
Quoted message:This definition emphasizes that the process of exposure is fundamentally about allowing light to affect the exposed medium, while still acknowledging the importance of adjusting camera settings to control the relative amount of light allowed to pass through the entrance pupil.
On first look, I am happy with that description.
You caught ChatGPT on a good day. This is what chatGPT tells me (it's wrong!):
Exposure in photography refers to the amount of light that reaches the camera's sensor or film when taking a photograph. It is determined by three factors: shutter speed, aperture, and ISO sensitivity.Doesn't ISO setting on the camera determines A or S in any auto modes for any given scene (lighting)?
In automatic modes, ISO guides the camera to set the proper exposure. In M mode, the human guides the camera to set the proper exposure.
You cannot say that ISO is part of exposure in A mode but not in M mode.
@IliahBorg has written: @sagittarius has written:Doesn't ISO setting on the camera determines A or S in any auto modes for any given scene (lighting)?
How does one know what ISO to set?
One does not, but ISO is set to something anyway
I'm confused ;)
While exposure is independent of ISO, the terms over/under-exposure seem dependent on ISO. Or is there a definition that would make those terms independent from ISO?
Not a definition per se but, as we know, the exposure for a given scene and it's lighting is directly dependent only on the actual value of the f-number and shutter speed when the shot is taken.
Anything indirect such as ISO, EC, metering and stuff is [u]indirectly[/u] affecting exposure, not setting it.
Exposure in photography refers to the amount of light that reaches the camera's sensor or film when taking a photograph. It is determined by three factors: shutter speed, aperture, and ISO sensitivity.
That just proves AI is not "intelligent" but copying stuff it finds on the internet - so just a huge search engine.
@SrMi has written:Exposure in photography refers to the amount of light that reaches the camera's sensor or film when taking a photograph. It is determined by three factors: shutter speed, aperture, and ISO sensitivity.
That just proves AI is not "intelligent" but copying stuff it finds on the internet - so just a huge search engine.
I get better results with Google search than with either ChatGPT or Bard because I am doing the selection of results.
That just proves AI is not "intelligent" but copying stuff it finds on the internet - so just a huge search engine.
Autocorrect on steroids.
@AlanSh has written:That just proves AI is not "intelligent" but copying stuff it finds on the internet - so just a huge search engine.
Autocorrect on steroids.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence)
In artificial intelligence (AI), a hallucination or artificial hallucination (also occasionally called confabulation[1] or delusion[2]) is a confident response by an AI that does not seem to be justified by its training data.[3] For example, a hallucinating chatbot with no training data regarding Tesla's revenue might internally generate a random number (such as "$13.6 billion") that the algorithm ranks with high confidence, and then go on to falsely and repeatedly represent that Tesla's revenue is $13.6 billion, with no provided context that the figure was a product of the weakness of its generation algorithm.[4]
Such phenomena are termed "hallucinations", in analogy with the phenomenon of hallucination in human psychology. Note that while a human hallucination is a percept by a human that cannot sensibly be associated with the portion of the external world that the human is currently directly observing with sense organs, an AI hallucination is instead a confident response by an AI that cannot be grounded in any of its training data.[3] Some researchers are opposed to the term, because it conflates two significantly different concepts (see #Opposition to terminology).
AI hallucination gained prominence around 2022 alongside the rollout of certain large language models (LLMs) such as ChatGPT.[5] Users complained that such bots often seemed to "sociopathically" and pointlessly embed plausible-sounding random falsehoods within its generated content.[6] Another example of hallucination in artificial intelligence is when the AI or chatbot forget that they are one and claim to be human.[7]
By 2023, analysts considered frequent hallucination to be a major problem in LLM technology