Fuji vs Canon costs

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JACS
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Aug. 21, 2023, 10:55 a.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 10:55 a.m.
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Ghundred
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Aug. 21, 2023, 11:24 a.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 11:24 a.m.
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@JACS has written:

@Ghundred has written:

@JACS has written:

@Ghundred has written:

@JACS has written:

@JimStirling has written:

This is a comparison between my smallest m43 lens + camera option and my smallest Z mount plus lens option.

Compare them to a phone now.

Here is a better comparison, BTW.

I've done exactly that

You changed the angle, nice. After all, all this photographic knowledge needs to be put to a good use.

The phone should be considered as a zero size zero weight device because is it always in your pocket. When you decide to shoot with your phone only, you do not pack up extra weight; you only have to bear the thought that you have an inferior equipment.

Here's the thing. I don't get inferior results. My tiny little f1.4 primes give the equivalent of your big, bulky and expensive 2.8 zooms. At the expense of changing a lens. Which, incidentally, is why I bought an interchangeable lens camera in the first place. Mind blowing huh.

I meant the phone but back to your quarter sensor camera. You are happy that a bag of primes is equivalent to a single FF zoom, and you consider changing lenses a plus. Whatever rocks you boat. When I use a prime, I am not trying to replicate an f/2.8 zoom. F/1.4 or f/1.2 are really what the sound like for me.

Forget about my “big, bulky and expensive 2.8 zooms” which I do not even own. Which smaller and cheaper m43 zoom can replace my f/4 70-200 zoom? There is/was an f/2 equivalent m43 expensive monster for which you’d need a shepherd and a mule, and the f/5.6 equivalent zoom is close in size and weight to the RF 70-200/4.

You seem unable to grasp the concept of me being mostly uninterested in zooms, and also that I do not carry around a whole bag of fixed focal length lenses. I didn't think it would be that difficult to understand personally, but yeah, I'm happy to make allowances.
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JACS
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Aug. 21, 2023, 11:33 a.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 11:33 a.m.
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Ghundred
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Aug. 21, 2023, 12:05 p.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 12:05 p.m.
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@JACS has written:

@Ghundred has written:

You seem unable to grasp the concept of me being mostly uninterested in zooms, and also that I do not carry around a whole bag of fixed focal length lenses. I didn't think it would be that difficult to understand personally, but yeah, I'm happy to make allowances.

You are "mostly uninterested in zooms" because of the limitations of your format. This is what you do not want to admit or you can't?

I like primes, too, like my 35/1.4, 50/1.2, 135/2. Interested?

What crWhat cr@p you project. I have the odd zoom I really like. I bought the PZ45-175 brand new a few years back for a whole $250 Au from memory. It weighs a whole 225 grams, & attached to my less than $500 320 gram G100 manages the likes of this

And so on, and so forth.
I also have the Panasonic Leica 50-200 f/2.8-4, and the 1.4x teleconverter if I feel a little more enthusiastic about carrying a bit more weight around.
Another zoom I really really like is my Panasonic Leica 8-18 f/2.8-4. Some of my favourite shots have been taken with that, but it's basically sat untouched since I picked up the Laowa 10mm f/2 at release, as well as the Panasonic Leica 9mm f/1.7 I simply like my primes more, nothing to do with your fantasies about "limitations"
Sure, if I was shooting fast action sport in very low light for monetary gain, it would be a no brainer to pick up some sort of 36x24 body, & a 2.8 zoom or two. But I'm not. It's purely for fun, wandering around a race track on a sunny Saturday or Sunday, beer in hand, chowing down on a Steak sanga or hamburger, enjoying myself as I watch the world go by.
I'm happy to leave the Protending to the 36x24 crowd, and have the real fun with my "inferior" quarter sensor camera. Shoot whatever makes you happy.

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Ghundred
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Aug. 21, 2023, 12:11 p.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 12:11 p.m.
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PS -I have no bias against your "full frame" choice of gear, I shot a Canon 6D for 4 or 5 years, never really enjoyed it, sold it after I picked up my first m4/3 camera and realised I simply didn't use it any more. Because I had way more fun with my quarter sensor camera. It really is that simple.

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JACS
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Aug. 21, 2023, 12:43 p.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 12:43 p.m.
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simplejoy
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Aug. 21, 2023, 1:04 p.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 1:04 p.m.
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C‘mon - I really doubt a lot of that‘s necessary! 'sensor sighs' 😮‍💨

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davidwien
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Aug. 21, 2023, 1:19 p.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 1:19 p.m.
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@AlanSh has written:

... The other forum is doing a perfectly good job of that (I posted this over there too - and it's got them all upset for some weird reason 😂)

Hmmm. An interesting comparison. It seems that the polarisation is similar here, but the reasons for it differ!

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JACS
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Aug. 21, 2023, 1:32 p.m. Aug. 21, 2023, 1:32 p.m.
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