Have Phones Killed The Genuinely Compact Camera Market ?

I purchased about 3 different compact "small sensor" Panasonic TZ cameras, the last of which was a TZ35.
I then bought a TZ100, with a larger sensor. This is a bit more bulky and all the logos have worn off the buttons, so it's difficult to use.

I just thought I would look at what is available as a modern TZ-35 equivalent. I've not been keeping an eye on things for a few years.

As far as I can see, Panasonic have exited that market and there are just variations on the larger TZ100 type (TZ100, 200, 70 etc)
Going across to the Canon website, I see a drastically slimmed down range.
Over at Nikon, their website has nothing that would come close to fitting in a pocket.

Have phones killed off most of the compact camera market ?

Even when I'm out with my TZ100 and my previous LG G7 phone, I often find I have to use the G7, as the G7 has better wide angle capability.
Most of the time, the TZ100 doesn't even get taken out.

My options for replacing the TZ100 seem to include reverting to the TZ35, or not even bothering and using a phone. I suppose someone still does a TZ35 equivalent.....

Asked and answered?

Well, perhaps.

Obviously the TZ100 beats the LG G7 in many areas, particularly with zoom and for night time photography.
The G7 was quite badly reviewed for camera performance & I've recently acquired a Pixel, which is supposed to be better.

My camera replacement cycle has certainly been pushed out from every 3~4 years to >6.5 years & counting. If there is a lack of suitable COMPACT replacements, then there will be no replacement.

I'm glad you like it. If it gets a lot of use, keep an eye on the logos on the buttons. If they start to wear off, you might want to put some transparent coating on them before the wear off completely. I've never had that problem on any other camera.

Only if you let them.

Phone camera definitely covers 99% of work needs, emergencies and general communication. So yes, it replaced my compact camera long ago.

But when I look at it with the arty eye, when I look at it as a hobby, then phone camera loses. Too limited, too low image quality. Compact cameras with either 1" sensors or very best lenses are so much more exciting and capable if you work it...

I'm in love with my 2 G100's. Throw a small prime on them, such as the Panasonic Leica 9mm f1.7, Panasonic Leica 15mm f1.7, Lumix 14mm f2.5, Lumix 20mm f1.7, Panasonic Leica 25mm f1.4 & so on, and you have a genuinely capable yet compact, light camera. That's how I roll. Yeah, it's not going to fit in my skinny jeans pocket, but neither does my Panasonic LX7, or an LX100 either. Plus, I don't wear skinny jeans.

Edit -half the time I don't carry a phone either. That's why wives carry handbags

I wouldn’t want to be a BBC outside cameraman just now.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-65511794

News studio cameras are now robotic.
deadline.com/2022/12/bbc-replacing-robot-news-studio-cameras-1235207592/

Phones have killed much, and coupled with "GOOGLING IT".... our brains are in that same category. Oh, did I mention freedom as being killed too? Anyhow, yes...phones have pretty much knocked off the compact camera.

Not really. Only if you let them. Nothing stopping you turning it off, leaving it at home in the drawer, or even not owning one. Covid woke me up a bit. Phone got left at home, switched on, & I paid cash for everything everywhere I went. For all intents & purposes, I was a model, law abiding citizen. Lol.

I think the trend is irreversible now, particularly as phone cameras continue to improve. I have three small(ish) cameras and still use them all from time to time. The last time I went on an outing with just my phone I found it strangely liberating?

What gear do you typically use out of interest? Personally, I hate phone cameras. With a passion. Terrible ergonomics. Absolutely awful. No EVF/viewfinder. No grip, and no proper manual controls. A phone could take a better picture than my camera, & I'd still use the camera. Because a camera is far far far more enjoyable to actually use. For me. The phone gets the job done, with zero enjoyment derived. The camera is fun to use, & that's the whole point of it -to me.
Just to give you an idea of size, one of my G100's with an image stabilized 24-64 equivalent lens vs my phone. And it's not a big phone. Just your average, run of the mill phone these days. The camera is hardly any bigger with a small fast f1.4-1.7 prime attached. It's just plain good fun to use, and certainly no burden to carry around.

I can take my GRiii out of my pocket and take a picture in about 1/10 of the time it takes to take my phone out, unlock it, open the camera app, and take the same image.

And It will have higher IQ and greater dynamic range.

So no, I'd happily leave my phone at home, forever...

My camera app is available from the lockscreen. I don’t have a GRiii specifically but, for me relative to the X100V, this one is a tossup. I can have either ready to shoot by the time the device has reached my eye.

Yes. Welcome to 2015 :)

I posted this as a reply to Phil Askey a few weeks back.

The writing has been on the wall for quite some time.
In 2013 the Chicago Sun-Times laid off all of its 28 staff photographers and trained their reporters how to take photos with an iPhone.
Many others followed suit.

I do my photography professionally and personally with a full frame system and day to day record shots of life with my iPhone. One doesn't do the work of the other.

But my iPhone has eliminated my need or want of a compact camera as yet another device to carry daily when photography isn't the primary goal of the day.