Yes but I notice at the time of Greg's post there is also a large chunk of members in their 40's. About 75% of members at that time were between 41 - 70, middle age and later.
That is unexpected outcome, for me anyways...
Could not imagine myself as a young photographer at 34. A lot to learn here, great!
What could I give though. Time, not really, experience, eh uh, hardly, money - what money. Millenials and Z-ers are useless! đ
Maybe but my own experience doesnât suggest this. I started âadvanced photographyâ as you say in my teens/20âs (Iâm now in my 60âs) Iâm guessing that a LOT of the older members here and DPR started around that age too.
Yet today, there are virtually no âyoungâ photographers on either this siteâs poll or DPRs poll. That suggests to me that forums like this and DPR are simply not of interest to many of them. Hence why forums like this are dying - so are their customers - and younger generations are simply not spending time on sites like this.
About 15-years ago, I knew a circle of young, photographers. Some men, some women. They had talent. They used DPR a lot for information (camera reviews, news). But they thought the forums were full of nothing but ânasty old menâ (their words, not mine) and never spent any time on the forums. Unfortunately, I donât recall where they told me that they did spend timeâŚ. It may have been instagram or something like it.
Yeah, we bikers are getting older and older (actually I'm an ex-biker after a really bad thing happened in Scotland in 1990) but I still am a biker at heart)!
I think most of what you say is true and explains why there are so few threads in the Beginners Forum both here and on DPReview now since the closure announcement.
Fwiw, I am in my 60's but first got into photography about 16 years ago with my first camera, a digital compact point and shoot.
Today there is so much information elsewhere on the Internet, and unfortunately the vast majority "teaching" the fundamentals is wrong, that beginners or even more advance people go to because the information is instantaneous.
I sense younger people prefer to receive their information via a video on YouTube, or whatever, rather than have to type their query into a post and then wait for a reply.
Most hobbies have a group of elders whose prime goal seems to be passing it along to the younger generations. Other than justifying their time spent, I haven't the slightest idea why they do that. I will be dead before Gen Z or their children can afford what this hobby has become. Why should I care what they do? I am sure the manufacturers will figure it out.
There is no traffic in the Beginners forum because we all came from DPR, none of us are beginners, your threads about ISO scare everybody away, and of the 4000 people who signed up here, only 1400 have posted anything.
None of which really have anything to do with industry trends. Its a polluted sample size of nothing.
I agree with you. And, while itâs potentially possible to do so, it seems to me unlikely that a forum like this, populated by us, will be able to do so. Gen Zâs use the internet as a resource a LOTâŚ. They donât know a world without itâŚ.. they were literally born into a world with itâŚâŚ. If they are not here (or other forums like it) now, they probably wonât be.
One young photographer on these boards just posted on this forum a link to his/her telegram account. Predictably, the first number of responses were âwhatâs telegram?â , âI thought telegrams were no longer a thingââŚâŚ. Maybe some folks were just having fun, IDKâŚ. But that type of âfunâ would certainly re-enforce the idea in my own kids minds that these forums are for dinosaurs and these type of forums will die with their customers. 30-years from now, the cycle will repeat, as it has for much of modern history.
That was me that started that thread. Us Gen-Z's are not all tiktok and instagram. Telegram and WhatsApp (even though its part of Facebook) are good for setting up small groups and general messaging. But telegram can't replace a forum like this with different subjects and experts commenting in each. I think Forums will continue to be a learning resource. I'm always open to new contacts on my telegram so if anyone wants to drop me a hi my addy is @sandyjenning
Sandy, I believe you to be a young woman with a desire to learn photography. You are on these boards. Awesome.
May I ask you a question?
I assume that in âreal lifeâ you have an extended circle of friends (female or male) about your same age with some of the same shared creative passions or interests â specifically photography. You are here. Are your friends also here? If so, why? If not, why not? I know what I hear from the younger folks (family) that I tend to be around but I would be very curious what your friends say too.
Given I have one of those Gen Z things at home, the bigger challenge would be understanding them if they posted anything, and even then it would have to be an audio or video clip :-)