Kodak has decided to release two low-cost DCS based on the Pronea 6i (APS film).
The first is DCS 315
The second is DCS 330
Not bad Kodak DCS 330 (1999) by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr
Kodak DCS 330 / Minolta RD-3000
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Kodak DCS 330 / Nikon D1
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Kodak DCS 330 / Canon EOS D30
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Hi,
Ah, yes. I remember these. The only digital cameras with APS-C sensors which are actually Full Frame.
In case anyone doesn't know, Nikon's Pronea was thier APS film SLR. ;)
And they had the IX lenses to match, although one could also use the FX lenses (but they weren't called such quite yet).
Stan
Hi! StanDisbrow
Unfortunately, the people here don't give a damn about the history of digital photography.
They prefer to discuss the moderators of DPReview, with more than 915 interventions to date, and counting 😈
That's not true of everyone. I enjoy following your posts.
Alan
I did and you didnt have the time to do a current test against current mirrorless so i could establish the REAL DR of cameras, instead i had to place a wanted add for the d30 3meg camera so i can do my own tests.
Fuji X is APS-C and designed from the ground up to be APS-C. There is no legacy 35mm format in there and no legacy 35mm lenses to go with it. I think it is reasonable to call it full frame APS-C (as it is to call 4/3 full frame 4/3). Calling these formats "crop" does them a disservice in a way.
The same could be said about GFX medium format. It's a crop by traditional medium format film standards, but it isn't really a crop format, it's a small medium format in its own right, the lens mount and the lenses are all dedicated to 44x33, there's no legacy 645,6x6 or larger lenses in the GFX brand.
No, DavidMillier it's just a wink from StanDisbrow 😉
To underline the fact that the Kodak DCS 315 and DCS 330, as well as the Minolta RD-3000 (1999)
These are the only cameras derived from APS "film" cameras. that's why we use the term FF for these three cameras.
The sensors are the same size, and the term APS-C derives from the 1996 APS "film" format.
At the time, all other digital DSLR cameras were derivatives of 24x36mm film cameras.
I hope this makes things clearer for you. 😎
Don't forget Canon's APS-H cameras which seemed to be a midpoint between APS-C and FF.
Alan
Hi,
And Kodak had APS-H models, using Nikon N90 and F5 and Canon EOS-1N film bodies. I had them all. Even monochrome versions.
However, no one made a digital APS-P (Panoramic, the third form of APS film).....
By the time anything came out of Fuji by way of designed to be APS-C, the APS film standard was already dead and buried. Perhaps they ought to call it their small format to line up with the way they call the GFX large format. Maybe they already do. Fuji happily marches to the beat of their own drum. :)
As far as the 44x33mm sensor being cropped medium format, there is no way around that. Pentax was first to use it in 2010 and they opted to make use of their 645 bodies and lenses.
What I see in regards to Fuji is they locked themselves into that size with their system, so they can't make use of the physically larger 150 MP sensor. Not that I think they need it. 100 MP seems to do just fine. And we don't know what's coming next for that size. Sony has a new fab. Right now, only for industrial uses, but we all know they won't be stopping there.
Stan
Marc,
I love when you post, sometimes i don't have anything to add to the conversation, but I am in awe of the collection you have, and I frequent your flickr page and thoroughly enjoy comparisons of the different cameras. I am one of the old is still awesome crowd. I have no camera newer than 2011.
Thank you for your comment, it's always nice to know that there are still people interested in the history of digital photography.
Fujifilm x100 (2011) / Lumix DMC-GF3 (2011)
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Fujifilm x100 (2011) / Lumix DMC-GF3 (2011) by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr
Totally agree with pointnshootpro. Whilst there's little useful I can add to the conversation about the history of digital photography, your posts are always fascinating. Have you ever thought of opening a museum?
Tim
I always have marched to the beat of a different drummer. Hence my early usage of 4/3s vs. canikon cameras. Everyone was telling me to get canon because that's what the "pros" use. I said nah, I like the products in the Olympus/Panasonic 4/3s system and started using them. The dumb thing, is that I sold it all off as I thought my 510 was having issues when it was ME. Young and dumb.
Now, I have matured more, and enjoy EVERYTHING camera related. But I think there is something about the early digital gear that the new "ultra sharp" high MP stuff miss. Hence I am sticking to the older gear. Am I going to purchase a few duds along the way? sure. But the gems are gems for a reason! Plus with upscale software now, I can make the old gear - New gear..ha ha. Keep posting Marc, even if I don't comment, I can assure you that any post that has Maoby attached to it I am looking at it 100 percent.
I hope to buy you a coffee one day when we visit the city again. This time we are coming in the summer so my wife and son who has austim can experience the city in the warm.
EDIT: One of my holy grail is the Kodak DCS 14 bodies in either mount. I would LOVE to have one of those. I still take my old DC220 point and shoots out every now and then for some nostalgia shots!
Hi,
Ah. I didn't realize you don't have an SLR/n. Do you have the SLR/c?
You could look for a SLR/14nx as well as a SLR/n. I'd be skipping over the 14n if any show up, scared of the first gen Fill Factory sensor....
Of course the body with the Canon mount is different. A Sigma body rather than a Nikon F80. Still, it'd be cool to have both. I thought about it at the time, but opted for a medium format-ish Pro Back instead (and a Contax 645 body).
Stan
I have neither. I have one of the first Kodak Point and shoot series cameras. the DC 220. Works perfect.
Thanks, that's a question that comes up a lot.
And I always answer that my museum is virtual. 😇
Boxed collection by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr
Probably the best way to have it too. No overhead.
