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Dec. 6, 2024
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    doctor
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 3:56 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 3:56 p.m.
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    ¡Hola!
    This couple caught me unaware, and I didn't have time to adjust the focus zone. Since I was sad about losing them, I tried a daring process...

    IMG_9411.jpeg

    IMG_9411.jpeg

    JPG, 3.5 MB, uploaded by doctor on Dec. 6, 2024.

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    AlanSh
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 4 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 4 p.m.
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    Introduced lots of grain?

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    doctor
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 4:44 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 4:44 p.m.
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    Yes, among other things. Grain can give a certain “sensation of focus” when there is none. What do you think, would it be better in the trash?

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    AlanSh
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 5:20 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 5:20 p.m.
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    Personally, I don't like grain and try and remove it as much as I can. But each to their own.

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    doctor
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 6:03 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 6:03 p.m.
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    Yes, I generally try to avoid it too. But sometimes it looks good if you are looking for a "vintage" aesthetic or, as in this case, to mask a major defect and try to save the image...

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    GreatBustard
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 7:46 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 7:46 p.m.
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    I agree that the added grain does not work in this case. Not necessarily the grain, per se, but the particular grain you added -- looks fake. So maybe a different added grain would work, or a lighter touch of the applied grain. That said, I think it might work best without the grain.

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    DanHasLeftForum
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 8:37 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 8:37 p.m.
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    @doctor has written:

    ¡Hola!
    This couple caught me unaware, and I didn't have time to adjust the focus zone. Since I was sad about losing them, I tried a daring process...

    IMG_9411.jpeg

    @doctor has written:

    Yes, among other things. Grain can give a certain “sensation of focus” when there is none. What do you think, would it be better in the trash?

    Grain doesn't work in most cases for me but in this case it works to some extent and so I definitely wouldn't throw out this image.

    The scene is "powerful" and exudes emotion with the look on the woman's and dog's faces - definitely a keeper.

    I would play with applying the grain selectively to appropriate elements and with other editing techniques and effects.

    If you like, post a link to the raw file if you have it and people here might come up with interesting processing suggestions using the raw file or the jpeg.

    Either way, keep the image 🙂

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    doctor
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 8:55 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 8:55 p.m.
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    @GreatBustard has written:

    I agree that the added grain does not work in this case. Not necessarily the grain, per se, but the particular grain you added -- looks fake. So maybe a different added grain would work, or a lighter touch of the applied grain. That said, I think it might work best without the grain.

    Same image, but without the added grain. It’s very soft: well, it’s really out of focus (and somewhat trepidated). I will try another kind of grain…

    IMG_9413.jpeg

    IMG_9413.jpeg

    JPG, 1.2 MB, uploaded by doctor on Dec. 6, 2024.

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    doctor
    Members 801 posts
    Dec. 6, 2024, 9 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 9 p.m.
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    @DanHasLeftForum has written:
    @doctor has written:

    ¡Hola!
    This couple caught me unaware, and I didn't have time to adjust the focus zone. Since I was sad about losing them, I tried a daring process...

    IMG_9411.jpeg

    @doctor has written:

    Yes, among other things. Grain can give a certain “sensation of focus” when there is none. What do you think, would it be better in the trash?

    Grain doesn't work in most cases for me but in this case it works to some extent and so I definitely wouldn't throw out this image.

    The scene is "powerful" and exudes emotion with the look on the woman's and dog's faces - definitely a keeper.

    I would play with applying the grain selectively to appropriate elements and with other editing techniques and effects.

    If you like, post a link to the raw file if you have it and people here might come up with interesting processing suggestions using the raw file or the jpeg.

    Either way, keep the image 🙂

    Hi Dan, i like the image the way you say, and that's why I've looked for some way to preserve it... but it's a small disaster 😀

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    DanHasLeftForum
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 9:01 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 9:01 p.m.
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    There are several detail enhancing techniques that might have beneficial effects on the image when applied globally or selectively.

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    NCV
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 9:08 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 9:08 p.m.
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    “Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" : Henri Cartier Bresson

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    DanHasLeftForum
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 9:12 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 9:12 p.m.
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    @NCV has written:

    “Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" : Henri Cartier Bresson

    That is one opinion but in any case you can enhance detail for artistic effects, not necessarily always for technical reasons.

    I'm saying the Doctor should keep the photo and persevere with it to see if he/she can come up with a version they like.

    For me, it's not a disaster as Doctor described.

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    NCV
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    Dec. 6, 2024, 9:20 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 9:20 p.m.
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    @DanHasLeftForum has written:
    @NCV has written:

    “Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" : Henri Cartier Bresson

    That is one opinion but in any case you can enhance detail for artistic effects, not necessarily always for technical reasons.

    It was a joke! I just threw in this famous quote to amuse.

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    Dec. 6, 2024, 9:24 p.m. Dec. 6, 2024, 9:24 p.m.
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    @NCV has written:
    @DanHasLeftForum has written:
    @NCV has written:

    “Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" : Henri Cartier Bresson

    That is one opinion but in any case you can enhance detail for artistic effects, not necessarily always for technical reasons.

    It was a joke! I just threw in this famous quote to amuse.

    And I saw it as an amusing quote, hence my reply to it.

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    GreatBustard
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    Dec. 7, 2024, 12:47 a.m. Dec. 7, 2024, 12:47 a.m.
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    @doctor has written:
    @GreatBustard has written:

    I agree that the added grain does not work in this case. Not necessarily the grain, per se, but the particular grain you added -- looks fake. So maybe a different added grain would work, or a lighter touch of the applied grain. That said, I think it might work best without the grain.

    Same image, but without the added grain. It’s very soft: well, it’s really out of focus (and somewhat trepidated). I will try another kind of grain…

    IMG_9413.jpeg

    I see what you're saying. Yeah -- a coarser grain than what you initially used might be better. Would it be OK if I posted a version for you to consider?

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    doctor
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    Dec. 7, 2024, 8:26 a.m. Dec. 7, 2024, 8:26 a.m.
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    Yes, Ok.
    And this is the initial disaster, only with a basic development and a crop...

    IMG_9415.jpeg

    IMG_9415.jpeg

    JPG, 2.2 MB, uploaded by doctor on Dec. 7, 2024.

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    DanHasLeftForum
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    Dec. 7, 2024, 10:01 a.m. Dec. 7, 2024, 10:01 a.m.
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    @doctor has written:

    Yes, Ok.
    And this is the initial disaster, only with a basic development and a crop...

    This is just a quick and basic edit as a starting point.


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    lola_edited.jpg

    JPG, 386.5 KB, uploaded by DanHasLeftForum on Dec. 7, 2024.

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    AlanSh
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    Dec. 7, 2024, 10:36 a.m. Dec. 7, 2024, 10:36 a.m.
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    That's nice.

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