• doctorpanorama_fish_eye
    686 posts
    4 months ago

    ¡Hola!
    This couple caught me unaware, and I didn't have time to adjust the focus zone. Since I was sad about losing them, I tried a daring process...

    IMG_9411.jpeg

    IMG_9411.jpeg

    JPG, 3.5 MB, uploaded by doctor 4 months ago.

  • AlanShpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    Introduced lots of grain?

  • doctorpanorama_fish_eye
    686 posts
    4 months ago

    Yes, among other things. Grain can give a certain “sensation of focus” when there is none. What do you think, would it be better in the trash?

  • AlanShpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    Personally, I don't like grain and try and remove it as much as I can. But each to their own.

  • doctorpanorama_fish_eye
    686 posts
    4 months ago

    Yes, I generally try to avoid it too. But sometimes it looks good if you are looking for a "vintage" aesthetic or, as in this case, to mask a major defect and try to save the image...

  • GreatBustardpanorama_fish_eye
    708 posts
    4 months ago

    I agree that the added grain does not work in this case. Not necessarily the grain, per se, but the particular grain you added -- looks fake. So maybe a different added grain would work, or a lighter touch of the applied grain. That said, I think it might work best without the grain.

  • DanHasLeftForumhelp_outline
    4254 posts
    4 months ago

    Grain doesn't work in most cases for me but in this case it works to some extent and so I definitely wouldn't throw out this image.

    The scene is "powerful" and exudes emotion with the look on the woman's and dog's faces - definitely a keeper.

    I would play with applying the grain selectively to appropriate elements and with other editing techniques and effects.

    If you like, post a link to the raw file if you have it and people here might come up with interesting processing suggestions using the raw file or the jpeg.

    Either way, keep the image 🙂

  • doctorpanorama_fish_eye
    686 posts
    4 months ago

    Same image, but without the added grain. It’s very soft: well, it’s really out of focus (and somewhat trepidated). I will try another kind of grain…

    IMG_9413.jpeg

    IMG_9413.jpeg

    JPG, 1.2 MB, uploaded by doctor 4 months ago.

  • doctorpanorama_fish_eye
    686 posts
    4 months ago

    Hi Dan, i like the image the way you say, and that's why I've looked for some way to preserve it... but it's a small disaster 😀

  • DanHasLeftForumhelp_outline
    4254 posts
    4 months ago

    There are several detail enhancing techniques that might have beneficial effects on the image when applied globally or selectively.

  • NCVpanorama_fish_eye
    2029 posts
    4 months ago

    “Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" : Henri Cartier Bresson

  • DanHasLeftForumhelp_outline
    4254 posts
    4 months ago

    That is one opinion but in any case you can enhance detail for artistic effects, not necessarily always for technical reasons.

    I'm saying the Doctor should keep the photo and persevere with it to see if he/she can come up with a version they like.

    For me, it's not a disaster as Doctor described.

  • NCVpanorama_fish_eye
    2029 posts
    4 months ago

    It was a joke! I just threw in this famous quote to amuse.

  • DanHasLeftForumhelp_outline
    4254 posts
    4 months ago

    And I saw it as an amusing quote, hence my reply to it.

  • GreatBustardpanorama_fish_eye
    708 posts
    4 months ago

    I see what you're saying. Yeah -- a coarser grain than what you initially used might be better. Would it be OK if I posted a version for you to consider?

  • doctorpanorama_fish_eye
    686 posts
    4 months ago

    Yes, Ok.
    And this is the initial disaster, only with a basic development and a crop...

    IMG_9415.jpeg

    IMG_9415.jpeg

    JPG, 2.2 MB, uploaded by doctor 4 months ago.

  • DanHasLeftForumhelp_outline
    4254 posts
    4 months ago

    This is just a quick and basic edit as a starting point.


    dprevived.com/media/attachments/6a/e2/9nKfOp5jY2wNVCcMcG5jhSXf3ICJ75fk0jcZClirggqiVyILQriJGWv7y1lZLOFi/lola-edited.jpg

    lola_edited.jpg

    JPG, 386.5 KB, uploaded by DanHasLeftForum 4 months ago.

  • AlanShpanorama_fish_eye
    4 months ago

    That's nice.