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My Little History of Digital Compacts

Maoby
March 28, 2023
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    Maoby
    Members 1600 posts
    April 13, 2023, 8:45 a.m. April 13, 2023, 8:45 a.m.
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    In the beginning, it was not uncommon to see the same camera, under different names.

    Like here with a Sanyo and an Epson

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/49976628278_090240e832_k.jpg
    Sanyo_Epson
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Epson PhotoPC (1996)
    Epson's first digital camera!
    310,000 pixels (640x480) with 1mb Internal
    Storage 1MB Int.

    Sanyo VPC-G1 (1996)
    Sanyo’s first digital camera!
    310,000 pixels (640x480) with 1mb Internal
    Storage 1MB Int.

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    WolfsHead
    Members 245 posts
    April 13, 2023, 10:06 a.m. April 13, 2023, 10:06 a.m.
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    Hi Marc

    I’m really enjoying this thread and I just want to offer you some encouragement to keep going with it. One thing that occurs to me is a sense of disappointment that, after all the innovative shapes of these cameras, we have now pretty much ended up with digital cameras which look like SLRs despite the shape (with pentaprism housing) no longer being necessary.

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    Maoby
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    April 13, 2023, 10:27 a.m. April 13, 2023, 10:27 a.m.
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    @WolfsHead has written:

    Hi Marc

    I’m really enjoying this thread and I just want to offer you some encouragement to keep going with it. One thing that occurs to me is a sense of disappointment that, after all the innovative shapes of these cameras, we have now pretty much ended up with digital cameras which look like SLRs despite the shape (with pentaprism housing) no longer being necessary.

    Thank you very much it is very nice. 👍🏻
    I can only agree with you on this point. And it's particularly discouraging to see all these MLs, which stupidly imitate the SLRs of another era. 🤡

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    Maoby
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    April 13, 2023, 12:24 p.m. April 13, 2023, 12:24 p.m.
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    SEGA Digio SJ-1 (1996)

    A funny camera

    live.staticflickr.com/5542/9658336142_3c39ac929d_k.jpg
    SEGA DIGIO (1996)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    SEGA Digio SJ-1 (1996)
    0.25MP 1/5’’ sensor (320x240)
    Storage: SmartMedia 5v 0.5mp
    ¥29,800 ($300.00)

    It uses the smallest memory card ever made for a camera (in storage capacity)
    A SmartMedia of 0.5 MB

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/49522557651_46d253a56c_k.jpg
    SEGA Digio SJ-1 (1996)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Device sold in Japan and Australia only !!

    I have the impression that it is impossible to download the photos taken with the SEGA
    We must be forced to use the game console of the same name, to achieve this!
    I have never seen a single software for PC

    If someone can explain to me how to download the photographs taken with my SEGA Digio SJ-1

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    DonCox
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    April 13, 2023, 2:32 p.m. April 13, 2023, 2:32 p.m.
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    They don't all look like SLRs.

    Don

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    JPG, 190.2 KB, uploaded by DonCox on April 13, 2023.

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    WolfsHead
    Members 245 posts
    April 13, 2023, 2:41 p.m. April 13, 2023, 2:41 p.m.
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    @DonCox has written:

    They don't all look like SLRs.

    Don

    To be fair, he didn’t say that - and then there are the Sony NEXes and A6000s (? - I don’t follow Sony hardware) which pack an amazing amount of functionality into a very small package. There are many that don’t, but all the major manufacturers have followed the SLR design for most of their range. I rather liked the look of the designs where the lens assembly was in a separate swivelling module, though I never had chance to try one.

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    Maoby
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    April 13, 2023, 8:12 p.m. April 13, 2023, 8:12 p.m.
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    Epson PhotoPC

    Epson was also very active in the early years.

    Epson PhotoPC 600 (1997)
    Epson PhotoPC 500 (1996)
    Epson PhotoPC (1996)

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    Epson PhotoPC
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Epson PhotoPC
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Epson PhotoPC (1996)
    Epson's first digital camera!
    310,000 pixels (640x480) with 1mb Internal
    $1000.00

    Epson PhotoPC 500 (1996)
    310,000-pixels sensor (640x480)
    Storage: 2 MB Int.
    $700.00

    Epson PhotoPC 600 (1997)
    810,000-pixels sensor (1024x768)
    Storage: 2MB CompactFlash
    $850.00

    And that brings us to the year 1997 …

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 3:25 a.m. April 14, 2023, 3:25 a.m.
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    1997

    We finally change the year 😎

    HP Photosmart (1997)
    310,000 pixels (640x480)
    HP Memory cards 2mb Internal
    The First HEWLETT PACKARD
    $500.00 USD

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    HP PhotoSmart (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    HP PhotoSmart (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 12:55 p.m. April 14, 2023, 12:55 p.m.
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    The Kodak DC120 Digital Zoom Camera (1997)
    820,000 pixels sensor (964x850) with Int. (1280x960)
    Storage: 2 MB Int. & CompactFlash
    $999.00 USD

    A camera that many people here must know. It is an improved version of the DC50

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    Kodak DC120 Digital Camera zoom (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DC120 Digital Camera zoom (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Kodak DC120 Digital Camera zoom (1997)
    eMac 800 mhz HD 40GB 17" Flat CRT (2002)
    Sofware Transfert d'images KODAK

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    Kodak DC120 (1997) & eMac 800 mhz HD 40GB
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DC120 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Kodak DC120 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    WolfsHead
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    April 14, 2023, 1:03 p.m. April 14, 2023, 1:03 p.m.
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    I can’t restrain myself any longer - just how many vintage cameras have you got? How do you store them, deal with battery problems etc.?

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 1:44 p.m. April 14, 2023, 1:44 p.m.
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    @WolfsHead has written:

    I can’t restrain myself any longer - just how many vintage cameras have you got? How do you store them, deal with battery problems etc.?

    About 200, only the cameras that made history, in my eyes of course 😎
    Let me answer in more detail in a few days as a conclusion and/or start of a new thread on early DSLRs/MLs

    👍🏻

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 3:33 p.m. April 14, 2023, 3:33 p.m.
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    And now the little PowerShot 350 from Canon

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    Canon PowerShot 350 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Canon PowerShot 350 (1997)
    310,000 pixels sensor (640x480)
    Storage: 2MB CompactFlash
    $700USD

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    Canon PowerShot 350 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    An example of the confusion between who does what! ⁉️

    live.staticflickr.com/669/20853060985_0d57c0565d_k.jpg
    Canon / Konica / Panasonic
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 5:23 p.m. April 14, 2023, 5:23 p.m.
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    Sony's second camera

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    Sony DSC-F1 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Sony DSC-F1 (1997)
    310,000 pixels sensor (640x480)
    Storage: 4mb Internal $850 USD

    Another device with internal memory
    No memory card, we have to connect the device to a Mac or a PC :(
    This is borderline unacceptable in 1997!!

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    Sony DSC-F1 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Here is a Mac PowerBook G3 with Mac OS 8.6 and Photoshop 6.0 and a Sony Digital Still Camera utility 1.5a plugin

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    Sony DSC-F1 (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    It's always a small victory! to get fifteen or more years old software working again to be able to recover the trapped photos 😎

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    davidwien
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    April 14, 2023, 6:56 p.m. April 14, 2023, 6:56 p.m.
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    Something strikes me as interesting about many of the cameras displayed above: the frequent attempt to forge a new shape for the camera. And yet, 20 or so year later, the Canon EOS R series, for instance, employs the same basic shape as the analog EOS series did, even though there is now no film to move from spool to spool!

    David

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 7:27 p.m. April 14, 2023, 7:27 p.m.
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    @davidwien has written:

    Something strikes me as interesting about many of the cameras displayed above: the frequent attempt to forge a new shape for the camera. And yet, 20 or so year later, the Canon EOS R series, for instance, employs the same basic shape as the analog EOS series did, even though there is now no film to move from spool to spool!

    David

    Ridicule does not kill 😈

    Once again, this demonstrates that old habits are hard to change. 😂

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    doady
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    April 14, 2023, 7:41 p.m. April 14, 2023, 7:41 p.m.
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    I am still annoyed when I see my nose leave a smudge on the LCD because the EVF is too centred, but maybe it is mpy a bad idea to have the EVF and LCD and the lens all on the same plane. More rangefinder style with the viewfinder all the way on the left side without any faux pentaprism hump seems more suitable for mirrorless, but there could be good reasons to continue the film SLR shape, even for someone like me who has never used either film or SLR before.

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    Maoby
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    April 14, 2023, 9:58 p.m. April 14, 2023, 9:58 p.m.
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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD

    A camera that did not go unnoticed in 1997
    It is the first compact that exceeds one million pixels
    Unfortunately, its price has cooled more than one, myself included 😕

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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    The Magnificent
    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    1,280,000 pixels (1280x1000)
    248,000 Yen or $2,400.00 USD
    With PCMCIA card

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/51413562120_837d77226d_k.jpg
    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    I ended up buying it in 2002 for $150.00 USD about 6% of its original price 😎

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    Maoby
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    April 15, 2023, 8:41 a.m. April 15, 2023, 8:41 a.m.
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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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    Fujix DS-300 1.3M CCD (1997)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

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