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Nikkor 105mm f2.5 thread

Dibyendu
May 4, 2023
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    Dibyendu
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    May 4, 2023, 7:30 p.m. May 4, 2023, 7:30 p.m.
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    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52402216352_0e3b4a6736_5k.jpgNikkor 105mm f2.5

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52402726811_080f0d436a_6k.jpgDSC_0428

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52402727196_8f2b3f20a9_6k.jpgDSC_0427

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52402721806_f5afdd0b68_6k.jpgDSC_0419

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    Rich42
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    May 4, 2023, 7:49 p.m. May 4, 2023, 7:49 p.m.
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    Good to see high-quality images from this lens.

    I had high-hopes when I got one many years ago. It was a poor sample. My 105 Micro Nikkor outperformed it in every way.

    I might try getting another one, seeing your images.

    Rich

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    Flashlight
    Members 137 posts
    May 4, 2023, 9:59 p.m. May 4, 2023, 9:59 p.m.
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    DSC_2702.jpg

    DSC_2702.jpg

    JPG, 73.9 KB, uploaded by Flashlight on May 4, 2023.

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    StanDisbrow
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    May 5, 2023, 12:38 a.m. May 5, 2023, 12:38 a.m.
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    Hi,

    There were other versions of the 105/2.5....

    dprevived.com/t/cks-lens-post-nikon-105mm-non-macro-short-history/1168/

    Stan

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    Thread title has been changed from AIS Nikkor 105mm f2.5 thread.

    • By Dibyendu on May 5, 2023, 6:40 a.m..
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    Dibyendu
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    May 5, 2023, 6:41 a.m. May 5, 2023, 6:41 a.m.
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    Yes changed the title.

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    StanDisbrow
    Members 500 posts
    May 5, 2023, 12:13 p.m. May 5, 2023, 12:13 p.m.
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    Hi,

    I have both a Type A Sonnar and a Type K Gauss. Those were Pre AI and I changed out the aperture rings to make them AI. That was once an option from Nikon - replacement aperture rings.

    The type K Gauss became AI and then AIS over time. The only real difference for the 105/2.5 from AI is that AIS changes to a standardized stop down rate for the aperture blades across all the lenses. Before that, different lenses had different stop down rates and so we're only true to any given aperture at the aperture ring stops.

    When Nikon came out with the FA, that offered S and P modes for the first time, and so that AIS change was necessary. I did buy some AIS lenses with my brand-new FA but not another 105/2.5 as I already had two left over from my predecessor F2.

    Stan

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    Dibyendu
    Members 139 posts
    May 5, 2023, 12:34 p.m. May 5, 2023, 12:34 p.m.
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    Nice. I have two - one AI and another AIS, both the same optical design I think.

    I tried a lot to find patents on this lens but no luck.

    Here are the designs I was able to find.

    105mm-1.jpg

    105mm-2.jpg

    105mm-3.jpg

    Older Rangefinder design:

    105mm-0.jpg

    105mm-0.jpg

    JPG, 56.3 KB, uploaded by Dibyendu on May 5, 2023.

    105mm-3.jpg

    JPG, 130.4 KB, uploaded by Dibyendu on May 5, 2023.

    105mm-2.jpg

    JPG, 74.4 KB, uploaded by Dibyendu on May 5, 2023.

    105mm-1.jpg

    JPG, 106.1 KB, uploaded by Dibyendu on May 5, 2023.

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    richarddutton
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    May 6, 2023, 8:10 p.m. May 6, 2023, 8:10 p.m.
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    You could check the link Stan posted above but I think the first lens is a Pre 197x sonnar - possibly ai converted and the second is a double Gauss AI-S.
    As well as the fluted barrel on the sonnar vs the diamond pattern on the Gauss, the rear element on the sonnar is much smaller than that on the double Gauss.

    I have the former.

    Richard

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    MrWilson
    Members 26 posts
    July 4, 2023, 2:10 a.m. July 4, 2023, 2:10 a.m.
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    I have the Nikon 105mm f2.5 ais lens and its a wonderful lens.

    Kaden.jpg

    JPG, 2.6 MB, uploaded by MrWilson on July 4, 2023.

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    TimoK
    Members 300 posts
    July 4, 2023, 6:45 a.m. July 4, 2023, 6:45 a.m.
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    Surprisingly Nikon's exellent series "Nikkor - Thousand and One Nights" has not yet been mentioned in this thread.
    So I must do it. There is great stories and lens designs of four 105mm Nikkors and one Micro-Nikkor (+ a little more):

    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0005/index.html
    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0021/index.html
    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0045/index.html
    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0059/index.html

    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0072/index.html

    I found the whole list of those lens stories in Bill Claff's site
    www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Lenses/OpticalBench/Tales.htm

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    DonCox
    Members 280 posts
    July 4, 2023, 11:17 a.m. July 4, 2023, 11:17 a.m.
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    FP008554_p2_toned.jpgThat 105mm lens is a real workhorse. Strongly recommended.

    Don.

    FP008554_p2_toned.jpg

    JPG, 11.7 MB, uploaded by DonCox on July 4, 2023.

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    StanDisbrow
    Members 500 posts
    July 4, 2023, 12:48 p.m. July 4, 2023, 12:48 p.m.
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    Hi,

    There was another thread about these here.

    dprevived.com/t/cks-lens-post-nikon-105mm-non-macro-short-history/1168/

    Lots of pics of all of the variations.

    And there was one over on DP Review. I'll see if I can find that one.

    Success!

    www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54989533

    It begins with one all in pieces. And there are photos in there showing the different rear elements on the Sonnav v Gauss.

    www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61780863

    If someone doesn't want to read all of the thread.

    As for all the edits, it was a work in progress there for a while. ;)

    Stan

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    leitz
    Members 177 posts
    July 21, 2023, 10:33 a.m. July 21, 2023, 10:33 a.m.
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    I bought a Laowa Smooth Trans Focus AiS 105/t3.2 (f/2.5) dual diaphragm lens a few years ago - sold the 105 f/2.5 Nikkor AiS. I prefer the out-of-focus rendition of the Laowa, particularly with the rounder t diaphragm. Cannot knock the Nikkor, though - it was tops for many years.

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    PHz
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    July 22, 2023, 3:53 p.m. July 22, 2023, 3:53 p.m.
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    Certainly there are other optics with different characteristics- this 105 does what I expect such a lens to do. My only gripe is that the sunshade tends to fall off.

    p.

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    leitz
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    July 22, 2023, 4:40 p.m. July 22, 2023, 4:40 p.m.
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    @PHz has written:

    Certainly there are other optics with different characteristics- this 105 does what I expect such a lens to do. My only gripe is that the sunshade tends to fall off.
    p.

    Try an HN-8 hood.

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    PHz
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    July 23, 2023, 3:49 p.m. July 23, 2023, 3:49 p.m.
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    the one I am using is teh one with buttons marked 105 and 135 and Nikon, but no code written on it.

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    leitz
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    July 23, 2023, 11:53 p.m. July 23, 2023, 11:53 p.m.
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    Sounds like an early snap-on HS-8. The HN-8 screws on. One was recently available on E-Bay for $10 US.

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    leitz
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    July 25, 2023, 3:39 a.m. July 25, 2023, 3:39 a.m.
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    @PHz has written:

    The one I am using is the one with buttons marked 105 and 135 and Nikon, but no code written on it.

    If you cannot find an HN-8 hood, you might remove the glass from a 52mm filter you don't need, clip your present hood onto the ring, and cement it with Super-Glue or thread locker. Check before cementing that it doesn't vignette - with one filter ring it should not - and if you subsequently intend to use a filter, test first with 2 filters.

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