• Dibyendupanorama_fish_eye
    139 posts
    2 years ago
  • Rich42panorama_fish_eye
    807 posts
    2 years ago

    Good to see high-quality images from this lens.

    I had high-hopes when I got one many years ago. It was a poor sample. My 105 Micro Nikkor outperformed it in every way.

    I might try getting another one, seeing your images.

    Rich

  • Flashlightpanorama_fish_eye
    137 posts
    2 years ago

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  • StanDisbrowpanorama_fish_eye
    428 posts
    2 years ago
  • edit

    Thread title has been changed from AIS Nikkor 105mm f2.5 thread.

  • Dibyendupanorama_fish_eye
    139 posts
    2 years ago

    Yes changed the title.

  • StanDisbrowpanorama_fish_eye
    428 posts
    2 years ago

    Hi,

    I have both a Type A Sonnar and a Type K Gauss. Those were Pre AI and I changed out the aperture rings to make them AI. That was once an option from Nikon - replacement aperture rings.

    The type K Gauss became AI and then AIS over time. The only real difference for the 105/2.5 from AI is that AIS changes to a standardized stop down rate for the aperture blades across all the lenses. Before that, different lenses had different stop down rates and so we're only true to any given aperture at the aperture ring stops.

    When Nikon came out with the FA, that offered S and P modes for the first time, and so that AIS change was necessary. I did buy some AIS lenses with my brand-new FA but not another 105/2.5 as I already had two left over from my predecessor F2.

    Stan

  • Dibyendupanorama_fish_eye
    139 posts
    2 years ago

    Nice. I have two - one AI and another AIS, both the same optical design I think.

    I tried a lot to find patents on this lens but no luck.

    Here are the designs I was able to find.

    105mm-1.jpg

    105mm-2.jpg

    105mm-3.jpg

    Older Rangefinder design:

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    105mm-3.jpg

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    105mm-2.jpg

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  • richardduttonpanorama_fish_eye
    29 posts
    2 years ago

    You could check the link Stan posted above but I think the first lens is a Pre 197x sonnar - possibly ai converted and the second is a double Gauss AI-S.
    As well as the fluted barrel on the sonnar vs the diamond pattern on the Gauss, the rear element on the sonnar is much smaller than that on the double Gauss.

    I have the former.

    Richard

  • MrWilsonpanorama_fish_eye
    26 posts
    2 years ago

    I have the Nikon 105mm f2.5 ais lens and its a wonderful lens.

    Kaden.jpg

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  • TimoKpanorama_fish_eye
    300 posts
    2 years ago

    Surprisingly Nikon's exellent series "Nikkor - Thousand and One Nights" has not yet been mentioned in this thread.
    So I must do it. There is great stories and lens designs of four 105mm Nikkors and one Micro-Nikkor (+ a little more):

    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0005/index.html
    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0021/index.html
    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0045/index.html
    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0059/index.html

    imaging.nikon.com/imaging/information/story/0072/index.html

    I found the whole list of those lens stories in Bill Claff's site
    www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Lenses/OpticalBench/Tales.htm

  • DonCoxpanorama_fish_eye
    280 posts
    2 years ago

    FP008554_p2_toned.jpg

    That 105mm lens is a real workhorse. Strongly recommended.

    Don.

    FP008554_p2_toned.jpg

    JPG, 11.7 MB, uploaded by DonCox 2 years ago.

  • StanDisbrowpanorama_fish_eye
    428 posts
    2 years ago

    Hi,

    There was another thread about these here.

    dprevived.com/t/cks-lens-post-nikon-105mm-non-macro-short-history/1168/

    Lots of pics of all of the variations.

    And there was one over on DP Review. I'll see if I can find that one.

    Success!

    www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54989533

    It begins with one all in pieces. And there are photos in there showing the different rear elements on the Sonnav v Gauss.

    www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61780863

    If someone doesn't want to read all of the thread.

    As for all the edits, it was a work in progress there for a while. ;)

    Stan

  • leitzpanorama_fish_eye
    177 posts
    2 years ago

    I bought a Laowa Smooth Trans Focus AiS 105/t3.2 (f/2.5) dual diaphragm lens a few years ago - sold the 105 f/2.5 Nikkor AiS. I prefer the out-of-focus rendition of the Laowa, particularly with the rounder t diaphragm. Cannot knock the Nikkor, though - it was tops for many years.

  • PHzpanorama_fish_eye
    108 posts
    2 years ago

    Certainly there are other optics with different characteristics- this 105 does what I expect such a lens to do. My only gripe is that the sunshade tends to fall off.

    p.

  • leitzpanorama_fish_eye
    177 posts
    2 years ago

    Try an HN-8 hood.

  • PHzpanorama_fish_eye
    108 posts
    2 years ago

    the one I am using is teh one with buttons marked 105 and 135 and Nikon, but no code written on it.

  • leitzpanorama_fish_eye
    177 posts
    2 years ago

    Sounds like an early snap-on HS-8. The HN-8 screws on. One was recently available on E-Bay for $10 US.

  • leitzpanorama_fish_eye
    177 posts
    2 years ago

    If you cannot find an HN-8 hood, you might remove the glass from a 52mm filter you don't need, clip your present hood onto the ring, and cement it with Super-Glue or thread locker. Check before cementing that it doesn't vignette - with one filter ring it should not - and if you subsequently intend to use a filter, test first with 2 filters.