• Members 369 posts
    Aug. 5, 2023, 11:19 p.m.

    Raw (Nikon NEF or Fuji RAF) is the file type I shoot. I shoot raw because it allows me the most latitude to process and edit the image to create a quality finished photo.

  • Members 457 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 1:38 a.m.

    Output from Adobe's Denoise DNG (4 channels in DNG per RawDigger). It seems to be a Linear Raw with a Color Filter Array.
    $ exiftool -H -S -G -a -ee -PhotometricInterpretation /Volumes/Photo/2023/2023-08-05/L1000042-Enhanced-NR.dng
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: RGB
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: Color Filter Array
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: Linear Raw
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: YCbCr
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: Linear Raw
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: Linear Raw
    [EXIF] 0x0106 PhotometricInterpretation: Linear Raw

  • Members 196 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 1:55 a.m.

    I think there is also the software to consider, you can get quite different results opening raw files in various software .

  • Members 196 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2 a.m.

    I think it is "raw" as I don't think it is an acronym like say ISO { International Standards Organization } and does not need capitalisation . On the other hand maybe raw stands for something I am ignorant of { always a possibility 😀 }

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    Aug. 6, 2023, 2 a.m.
  • Members 196 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2:14 a.m.

    There are so many alternatives around it is hard to pin down which works best for me. I have tried a lot but in the end I tend to stick with adobe not necessarily because it is the "best" . I have just used adobe products for so long I feel at home with them. I quite like DXO's results but actively dislike the interface , it often does a better job with UWA lenses than the makers defaults sneaking in a slightly wider field of view, every mm counts for us UWA fans 😀

  • Members 2303 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2:29 a.m.

    me too, i use it for the great features and most important for my mass shoots, actions.

  • Members 976 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2:30 a.m.

    Yes. Could you please upload such a DNG to a file exchange server (some of the free ones are Dropbox, Google Drive, WeTransfer) and e-mail a link to support@rawdigger.com ?

  • Members 976 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2:32 a.m.

    I'm making a difference here, technical term is raw, marketing invented "RAW" ;)

  • Members 1737 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2:37 a.m.

    There is no best. There may be a best for you. Trying to assign a universal scalar metric to programs like this is fruitless.

  • Members 457 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 2:49 a.m.

    Done.

  • Members 976 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 12:11 p.m.

    Thank you.
    This file packs together various types of (pseudo-)raw, four are linear (demosaicked), and one is mosaicked.

    Please have a look at RawDigger Preferences -> Data Processing -> Vendor specific -> "DNG files" section (at the bottom). In the "DNG opcodes" drop-down you should have "Stage 1" selected; in "Additional image types" - "Enhanced image" (that corresponds to Adobe Camera RAW/Lightroom: Enhance image, as the RawDigger manual notes).

    Now you should be able to use the bottom bar of the main RawDigger window to select "Frame:", number two is that linear (demosaicked) image.

    Adobe define photometric interpretation in their DNG SDK, and the specification leaves no doubts what linear is:

  • Members 457 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 3:01 p.m.

    Thank you for the analysis.
    The important feature is that the channels are separate so that highlight recovery/reconstruction is still possible when one channel is clipped.

  • Members 976 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 3:05 p.m.

    But not in the linear sections ;)

  • Members 599 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 8:23 p.m.

    It is a conundrum many try to solve, but then find out it comes down to what suits them the most.

  • Members 196 posts
    Aug. 6, 2023, 11:27 p.m.

    I agree despite having a wee dabble at every software offering that pops up I invariably end up using PS . I am very familiar with the interface and really there is little you cannot do in PS . Though I do like DXO pureraw for NR and their lens profiles are often better than ACR using the makers own

    A quick example using a DPreview 14-30mm F/4 , the shot is taken at F/4 and 14mm , the DXO conversion is a touch wider and a touch sharper with no extra work

    www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/4872758394/nikon-z-14-30mm-f4-s-real-world-samples/8739556640

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    JPG, 4.8 MB, uploaded by JimStirling on Aug. 6, 2023.

  • Members 457 posts
    Aug. 7, 2023, 12:34 a.m.

    Starting post-processing with a sharper version is not a good thing.
    I don't like that DxO is making a wider image than I intended. I try to make the corners right when framing. At some point, DxO was even changing the ratio of the image, but I can turn that off now.