www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68444187
Should be fun ... XenForo is almost an Industry Standard though ...
Sept. 18, 2025
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Isn't that interesting.
I wonder why they are really doing it. No one has (to my knowledge) complained about the existing structure there.
Alan
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- By AlanSh on Sept. 18, 2025, 9:01 p.m..
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That is a really dumb idea and I suspect will lead to the loss of a large proportion of their users.
Xenforo might look slick but it is Flat View only - no threaded view (where have we heard that before?). It also has a max image size of 1600px on the long side. That is incredibly limiting because you can't view at 100% to see the detail of good quality images.
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because they have no money to maintain in current form, they will just let the forum designer do that. so much for progress. programs i developed 40 years ago on mac were slick, today there are no real system designers just program manipulaters using off the shelf programs.
get ready for a masive influx of new members 👍 -
On the second page of the topic, Matthew Anderson, admin, writes, interestingly:
NB italics doesnt seem to work on new iPadOS Safari!
Tut, tut, too many folks talking about cameras/equipment… 😀
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What surprised me is that he claimed that most users use the flat view! I won't be kind enough not to say this here. I think he's just lying.
Does a forum really require a lot of maintenance ?
This forum software has some great features, like allowing me to quote different users in a single post, as I just did. However, I find the threaded view particularly useful.
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Do you have anything to support your accusation? In my 20 years on DPR I never used threaded view.
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I shouldn’t have said that he is lying, since my assumption is based only on my experience and what I’ve read here and there in support of a threaded view. I have nothing to prove my accusation. On the other hand, I still struggle to understand how so many messages in a single thread can be followed without a threaded view. I suppose it’s just my brain that isn’t capable of navigating all the posts without some kind of structure (no sarcasm here, I mean this seriously).
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I have never used it, either.
David
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In threaded view posts are grouped by replies to a certain post. If we take that thread as an example, what good will it do to read just particular group of posts. To follow the discussion you need to read all the posts or at least the majority.
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It seems a bit Marmite to me, I guess!
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Personally I don't use threaded view. But I know some do and that is why we are trying to get it into this forum (it's quite hard to do). But to take away a view that they have been used to and like seems to me a retrograde step.
Alan
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Flat view works fine if you want to only post a single picture of your own and have people respond only to it. Call-and-response is a good approach to short, simple replies.
However, if you want to have a more in depth conversation, back and forth, between multiple people over one topic, or if you want to have shared threads like many of ours here, where conversations develop over individual photos and their interpretations within a thread, flat view becomes impossibly tangled. Threaded view allows us to interact in the way we prefer: just look at/reply to the responses to our own posts, or engage in meaningful conversations as we would in real life.
I strongly prefer the latter. DPR was the only place that kind of conversation was possible about photography, and I think they're making a big mistake in letting it go. Now would be a good time to figure out how to do it here, as there is apparently a furor over this decision over there, and offering threaded view could be a big draw if there is any interest in growth to the owners here....
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Be careful what you wish for! Some of the regulars at DPR are a bit heavy going...
David
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I was there for a decade before coming over here during the last upheaval, so I know!! I stayed out of that fray, in a small quiet neighborhood on the edge of the place, but enjoyed engaging in complex conversations with folks who just liked to talk about pictures, regardless of gear, made easy by threaded view access.
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Bob is working on threaded view code. It is complex but he's almost there. We have some issues with development machines that need to be solved. And we need to decide which platform to put it on - current one or the next one.
It all takes time - but we will get there.
Alan
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I have now read seven pages of the DPR thread, and that is enough for me. It seems that many of the participants are not those that I generally like to read. It is not a totally representative cross-section of the members. Most of them absolutely require threaded views; but the point was made by the management that most people at DPR use flat view anyway. Most of the people that are so adamant that threaded views are crucial appear to be saying also that they will quit DPR if these are not implemented in the new software. These are not prospective members here, unless we can provided threaded views, and I understand the difficulty in doing this. I am also not sure that such people are worth leaning over backwards for.
If it achieves anything, the new software underpinning DPR will reduce the average age and total number of members (I left before the new management took over, and do not do anything there beyond reading five fora: Open Talk, Canon EOS R Talk, Leica Talk, PC Talk, and Retouching. Reading these once a week doesnt take long.)
David
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i totally agree, FM forums are the same crap flat view, how in this day and age there is no threaded view is beyond belief, i use to design complex MRP systems back in the 80s all menu driven with any screen layout i wanted using apple macs, IBM were not even in the game back then.
