stop and think about it if your cameras histogram is based on the distribution of data within a color space what happens if you use a larger color space than the color space your camera is presenting data and how it falls within that histogram?
stop and think about it if your cameras histogram is based on the distribution of data within a color space what happens if you use a larger color space than the color space your camera is presenting data and how it falls within that histogram?
as i said look closer at the histogram and the image. there is no white in the image.
why dont you look at the raw histogram closer
I have, have you?
@DonaldB has written:there is no white in the image.
You just stated
@DonaldB has written:with a RGB value of 252 on the brightest white Im always right.
that sounds white to me
you havent answed my question yet. what does your camera histogram read in the brightest RGB value ?
@IanSForsyth has written: @DonaldB has written:there is no white in the image.
You just stated
@DonaldB has written:with a RGB value of 252 on the brightest white Im always right.
that sounds white to me
you havent answed my question yet. what does your camera histogram read in the brightest RGB value ?
You are both not answering each other's questions 😄
You haven't answered Ian's questions
Now think about this what if you use a color space that is larger than the color space your camera can proved?
If the color space of your camera shows clipping what do you think will happen if you say process that raw file in a larger color space?
or his other questions 🙂
You are both not answering each other's questions 😄
Well it is kind of a silly question the brightest value would be 255 255 255
as that the is the furthers to the right value within color space of my cameras histogram
Not my work flow , if it aint broke dont fix it. what does your camera histogram measure ?
My cameras histogram measures values that fall within the color space that is selected in my camera and distributes them in a graph that ranges from 0-255 for the three color channels
Change that color space and how they are distributed within that graph will change
@DonaldB has written:Not my work flow , if it aint broke dont fix it. what does your camera histogram measure ?
My cameras histogram measures values that fall within the color space that is selected in my camera and distributes them in a graph that ranges from 0-255 for the three color channels
Change that color space and how they are distributed within that graph will change
your avoiding the question. but i thought thats what you and danno would do.
you own cameras with inferior tools so you lift in post.
@IanSForsyth has written: @DonaldB has written:Not my work flow , if it aint broke dont fix it. what does your camera histogram measure ?
My cameras histogram measures values that fall within the color space that is selected in my camera and distributes them in a graph that ranges from 0-255 for the three color channels
Change that color space and how they are distributed within that graph will changeyour avoiding the question. but i thought thats what you and danno would do.
You asked what it measures and Ian gave you the correct answer.
You still haven't answered Ian's questions I reminded you earlier.
Now think about this what if you use a color space that is larger than the color space your camera can proved?
If the color space of your camera shows clipping what do you think will happen if you say process that raw file in a larger color space?
@DonaldB has written: @IanSForsyth has written: @DonaldB has written:Not my work flow , if it aint broke dont fix it. what does your camera histogram measure ?
My cameras histogram measures values that fall within the color space that is selected in my camera and distributes them in a graph that ranges from 0-255 for the three color channels
Change that color space and how they are distributed within that graph will changeyour avoiding the question. but i thought thats what you and danno would do.
You asked what it measures and Ian gave you the correct answer.
WoW his camera can measure white at 255 255 255 thats amazing what is it nikon tethered to a computer and even then you couldnt meter that perfect. because you cant stream live raw.🤣🤣🤣You still haven't answered Ian's questions I reminded you earlier.
@DonaldB has written:Not my work flow , if it aint broke dont fix it. what does your camera histogram measure ?
My cameras histogram measures values that fall within the color space that is selected in my camera and distributes them in a graph that ranges from 0-255 for the three color channels
Change that color space and how they are distributed within that graph will change
Jpeg 😂🤣
your avoiding the question. but i thought thats what you and danno would do.
you own cameras with inferior tools so you lift in post.
That is a big assumption, a great deal of time I do not lift in post. I however like to ETTR for much of my work to help reduce noise
I also like to understand what processing is being done and what color spaces do to how a scene is represented in that color space
Using the wrong color space and trying to recreate those colors within a color space can introduce clipping that was never present in the raw data.
I would think that someone with your knowledge would know this but from the looks of this this be beyond what you understand because you can not even answer the simple question as to what would happen if you use a color space that is smaller or larger than the histogram represented in the camera selected color space.
Jpeg 😂🤣
You really do not understand and you have been at it for 1300 posts
@DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written: @IanSForsyth has written: @DonaldB has written:Not my work flow , if it aint broke dont fix it. what does your camera histogram measure ?
My cameras histogram measures values that fall within the color space that is selected in my camera and distributes them in a graph that ranges from 0-255 for the three color channels
Change that color space and how they are distributed within that graph will changeyour avoiding the question. but i thought thats what you and danno would do.
You asked what it measures and Ian gave you the correct answer.
WoW his camera can measure white at 255 255 255 thats amazing what is it nikon tethered to a computer and even then you couldnt meter that perfect. because you cant stream live raw.🤣🤣🤣You still haven't answered Ian's questions I reminded you earlier.
You are changing what I posted. I never said that
Thank you Ian,
you just gave me the final piece to my puzzle that my sony camera in fact and can prove the histogram is a raw histogram. thankyou.
and BTW setting the zebras to 109+1 does not change the raw histogram at all. the histogram is independent.
Now let the games begin as how did i stumble across the evidence. off you go boys and try to figure it out.
Thank you Ian,
you just gave me the final piece to my puzzle that my sony camera in fact and can prove the histogram is a raw histogram. thankyou.
Nope, that is not true. Your camera's histogram is not a raw histogram 🤣
And you are still running away from Ian's questions
Now think about this what if you use a color space that is larger than the color space your camera can proved?
If the color space of your camera shows clipping what do you think will happen if you say process that raw file in a larger color space?
If you ask the engineers at Sony I can guarantee you 100% they will tell you the same thing