• Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 8:24 p.m.

    sorry i never blow out backgrounds i always leave them at 246 so the printer can lay ink. Have you ever seen a print with a pure white background and the object/subject is floating in space ? very wrong.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 25, 2023, 8:48 p.m.

    Consider composite / extraction, consider what a customer may want, and generally use your imagination.

  • Members 138 posts
    June 25, 2023, 9:09 p.m.

    I think your assertions are locked on the tools you've used. The end control points of the curve tool I use can be slid along either axis...

    Even with them set at the far corners, there can be significant effect with slope in the corners. That's the basis of the filmic curve, which has a toe (left end) that starts shallow but almost immediately changes to a steeper slope, far before you can really see it in a curve plot. That's to emulate the so-called "crisp blacks" of film. A good read on it:

    filmicworlds.com/blog/why-a-filmic-curve-saturates-your-blacks/

  • Members 1737 posts
    June 25, 2023, 9:27 p.m.

    Adobe RGB image histogram

    16 million adobe rgb.png

    No clipping.

    Image converted to sRGB, absolute color:

    16 million srgb.png

    Lots of clipping on the color channels.

    16 million srgb.png

    PNG, 1.3 MB, uploaded by JimKasson on June 25, 2023.

    16 million adobe rgb.png

    PNG, 992.6 KB, uploaded by JimKasson on June 25, 2023.

  • Members 216 posts
    June 25, 2023, 10:18 p.m.

    Sadly I have a feeling that we need to start from the beginning with Don, the very first is what a histogram represents.
    This would probably not work as seen with his refusal to learn and to throw away his preconceived notions on other subjects.

  • Removed user
    June 25, 2023, 11:53 p.m.

    No "probably" about it - it definitely will not work and his preconceived notions on other subjects will remain fully intact ...

    ... and wrong.

  • Removed user
    June 26, 2023, 12:18 a.m.

    affects and ...

    ... hogwash. I'm not even going to bother with an example ... it would be waste of my time ..

  • Members 677 posts
    June 26, 2023, 1:33 a.m.
  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:30 a.m.

    very interesting, great to learn something new, must give it a try Thanks.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:31 a.m.

    i dont understand what you are showing me.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:32 a.m.

    please post some real world images not some hypothetical images that have never won a image competition.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:34 a.m.

    thats because you cant take a competition image . and a bit embarressed that you might not be up to standard photography wise.

  • Members 216 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:38 a.m.

    It just goes to show that you do not understand what a histogram is showing you, Please look into what a histogram shows you.
    You can have clipping in colors that are not close to white.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:39 a.m.

    dont flatter yourselves , because you couldnt take a half decient macro to save your life. lets see all the beginners macro images, and dont worry
    i can show 100 at this standard.

    w788 (2023_04_06 20_18_00 UTC).jpg

    w788 (2023_04_06 20_18_00 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 7.4 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on June 26, 2023.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:41 a.m.

    its not an image he took.

  • Members 216 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:41 a.m.

    I have, I take photographs because I like to take photographs and not based on what other persons like.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:45 a.m.

    so you think i cant emulate real blacks in an image. how about you show me one of your masterpeices and see if it compares to mine.

    w622 (2023_04_07 07_19_14 UTC).jpg

    w622 (2023_04_07 07_19_14 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 2.4 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on June 26, 2023.

  • Members 216 posts
    June 26, 2023, 2:46 a.m.

    But it shows you can have clipping.
    The sad thing if you want to get snarky is that at this time you can not understand how there can be clipping