• Members 138 posts
    June 20, 2023, 2 p.m.

    Nope, don't own Sony cameras but I've just picked through the Sony manuals for your camera and found that the zebra indicator is anchored to IRE levels, a video convention for expressing the range from black to white in a composite signal - definitely not raw.

  • Removed user
    June 20, 2023, 2:47 p.m.

    Me too!

    Opened in the GIMP, masked the lamp (not v. well), dialed it down a bit, applied contrast and brightness, three stages of USM, then "oilifield" ...

    ... the GIMP - don't leave home without it.

    tren-ted-II.jpg

    Pardon the typo.

    tren-ted-II.jpg

    JPG, 82.1 KB, uploaded by xpatUSA on June 20, 2023.

  • Members 138 posts
    June 20, 2023, 3:03 p.m.

    I use GIMP mainly for clone/heal, and once in a while I'll mangle an image in to abject abstract-ness with it. Definitely OT to the thread, maybe I should start a PlayRaw thread with the raw file. Oops, wrong forum... 😆

  • Removed user
    June 20, 2023, 5:42 p.m.

    It's astounding the sheer number of options available in the GIMP, even with no add-ons.

    I use it mainly for analysis but layers and masks are extremely useful when messing around ...

  • Members 83 posts
    June 20, 2023, 6:14 p.m.
    exiftool -g0:2 -"CircleOfConfusion"  /Volumes/EOS_DIGITAL/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4277.CR3  
    ---- Composite:Camera ----
    Circle Of Confusion             : 0.030 mm
    
    exiftool -g0:2 -"CircleOfConfusion" -DOF -FOV  /Volumes/EOS_DIGITAL/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4277.CR3
    ---- Composite:Camera ----
    Circle Of Confusion             : 0.030 mm
    ---- Composite:Image ----
    Depth Of Field                  : 0.22 m (11.40 - 11.62 m)
    Field Of View                   : 3.7 deg
    
    exiftool -g0:2 -"MeasuredEV*" -"exposure*" -ISO -Fnumber /Volumes/EOS_DIGITAL/DCIM/100CANON/IMG_4277.CR3
    ---- EXIF:Image ----
    Exposure Time                   : 1/160
    F Number                        : 9.0
    ISO                             : 12800
    ---- EXIF:Camera ----
    Exposure Program                : Not Defined
    Exposure Mode                   : Auto
    ---- MakerNotes:Image ----
    Measured EV                     : 6.00
    Exposure Compensation           : -2/3
    Measured EV 2                   : -2.5
    ---- MakerNotes:Camera ----
    Exposure Level Increments       : 1/3 Stop
    
  • Members 2303 posts
    June 20, 2023, 7:41 p.m.

    it was about 50 times you just dont accept you dont know everything.

  • Members 2303 posts
    June 20, 2023, 7:43 p.m.

    no you dont your an m43 shooter

  • Members 976 posts
    June 20, 2023, 7:44 p.m.

    I was expecting a somewhat more on topic response, with examples proving your point of view.

  • Members 2303 posts
    June 20, 2023, 7:45 p.m.

    no one said its from raw . please read every post again. its as close to raw as you can get , which part dont you or anyone eles understand

  • Members 2303 posts
    June 20, 2023, 7:46 p.m.

    revisit the other 1000 posts to re familiarize yourself.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 20, 2023, 7:47 p.m.

    So, you can't offer factual proof.

  • Removed user
    June 20, 2023, 8:05 p.m.

    Translation for readers of English:

  • Members 457 posts
    June 20, 2023, 8:10 p.m.

    I think your problem is that you are a conspiracy theorist and believe that everyone is lying to you, but it is actually the other way around.

    I shoot mostly with Nikon, Leica, and Hasselblads, but enjoy using other brands as well.
    I just returned from a 5 weeks trip in Europe where I used only a6600. Looking forward to the upgrade in a month, though.

    I even posted images here in Sony APS-C forum.

  • Members 138 posts
    June 20, 2023, 8:41 p.m.

    I do get it. I currently use a metering mode that protects highlights but leaves 1-2 stops of unused headroom depending on the scene. As good as I can get with my camera and shooting considerations. I'd just like a more direct means to assess blown highlights, one that is directly associated with the measurements being blown. Based on IRE, Sony zebras wouldn't be it.

  • Members 216 posts
    June 21, 2023, 4:54 a.m.

    Very simple to put my area that I have selected to be as close to white without clipping in the raw file, Most of the time this is done using the cameras metering system ( that is calibrated for raw shooting) or by an handheld meter with an +ec for raw.
    To do this I measure the scene luminance

    This is not done on someone with a dark complexation, or light, not on middle grey those are set by processing

    photos.smugmug.com/Temp/Temp/i-p6pFbLS/0/84c7ce9a/L/yellow-L.jpg

    photos.smugmug.com/Temp/Temp/i-ZQ8rnzW/0/8cc1ec05/L/yellow%20clip-L.jpg
    What am I to gather from from these 2 histograms of the same image?

  • Members 2303 posts
    June 21, 2023, 7:36 a.m.

    thats the thing. my camera histogram matches the raw histogram using fast raw viewer not just the zebras. But the zebras are far more accurate
    unless you use a 3x jewellers glass to view the tiny camera histogram. as fas a i know sony is the only camera system that has raw accurate tools.

  • Members 2303 posts
    June 21, 2023, 7:40 a.m.

    i dont know what your looking at.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 21, 2023, 10:52 a.m.

    This was disproved.

    Didn't find any promise of "raw accurate tools" in Sony manuals.