• Members 542 posts
    June 25, 2023, 3:49 p.m.

    Of course, many people shooting raw don't care about the raw histogram, either. They may target exposure for the OOC/default_conversion on which a JPEG histogram is based, but only shoot raw for more flexibility in making adjustments in post-processing, rather than for optimizing raw ETTR.

  • Members 542 posts
    June 25, 2023, 5:11 p.m.

    That depends on what you expect it to mean. I never thought of it as an absolute light meter; just a way of determining what a "stop" of exposure change does horizontally on the histogram, at different parts of the histogram, with the WB and picture style and subject matter fixed, when only varying exposure.

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    June 25, 2023, 7:16 p.m.

    Thats an awesome explaination thanks for that John, which is why we cant basically set the perfect exposure using any incamera histograms. because we have a 1/3 stop inacuracy in exposure reading as well as 1/9 margin of error in histogram design so there will always be a little or less headroom to play with.

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    June 25, 2023, 7:18 p.m.

    That might be so, but a tone curve only effects the middle of the histogram not the ends.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:19 p.m.

    Are you familiar with the S-curve? Toe, shoulder?

  • Members 1737 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:20 p.m.

    That is not true at all. The sRGB tone curve is a gamma curve with a straight line segment near the origin. In many implementations, the Adobe RGB tone curve is a simple gamma 2.2 curve.

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    June 25, 2023, 7:26 p.m.

    my review histogram does not match the live histogram. I havnt done any real testing of that yet.

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    June 25, 2023, 7:31 p.m.

    it doesnt matter as the ends are still locked. same when you adjust curves in PS to gain more contrast.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:37 p.m.

    You are terribly wrong.
    On a side note, the tone curve applied to the image isn't the one applied to the horizontal scale.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:42 p.m.

    when have you ever applied a tone curve and clipped the ends of an image ?

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:44 p.m.

    when have you ever clipped the ends of a histogram with colours ? because if you have you need to relearn how to take/process an image.

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  • Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:46 p.m.

    this is a good example why sony zebras are the most accurate way to expose colours bar none.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:46 p.m.

    Sometimes several times a day. Could be even several hundred.
    "a tone curve only effects the middle of the histogram not the ends" - that's wrong, clipping or not.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:47 p.m.

    You have no idea what you are talking about ~<:-)

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:48 p.m.

    I can only think of 1 instance when it is the proper way to print. and thats printing a B & W image. there is no other reason.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:49 p.m.

    so you keep saying, post an image with a purpose blown out head shot 😂

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 25, 2023, 7:58 p.m.

    Post any image of yours lets see if you live up to your keyboard theroy perfectionism.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 25, 2023, 8:05 p.m.

    Consider off-white background, and generally use your imagination.