• Aug. 2, 2023, 1:42 p.m.

    Which is why, when I used to go climbing, I would never go unroped. One slip and "goodbye". And yes, I did have the odd slip - but I am still here 😁

  • Members 369 posts
    Aug. 5, 2023, 8:50 p.m.

    Prosecute a few of them for assault and the others will think twice about the wisdom of moving that last meter to literally be in the middle the course.

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    Aug. 5, 2023, 8:54 p.m.
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    Aug. 6, 2023, 8:04 p.m.
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    Aug. 6, 2023, 8:08 p.m.

    One rarely hears about prosecutions. We do hear about the deaths though:
    www.cbsnews.com/pictures/dangerous-selfies/9/

  • Members 599 posts
    Aug. 7, 2023, 10:58 p.m.

    And then there is this stuff happening:
    " The elite men’s road race at the UCI World Championships in Glasgow was suspended for almost an hour on Sunday morning after climate activists glued themselves to the road."
    nationalpost.com/news/protesters-glue-themselves-to-road-to-halt-cycling-world-championships

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    Aug. 7, 2023, 11:06 p.m.

    I think that may well be very annoying to a lot of people, We had to wait an extra hour to watch the race pass 😀 However it was a peaceful protest no one was hurt or likely to be hurt . The four were arrested once unglued , If protest is not disruptive it will never garner any attention.

  • Members 244 posts
    Aug. 8, 2023, 12:23 a.m.

    So, if one spends one’s life doing incredibly dangerous and usually illegal stunts, privately, and falls to one’s death, is that also in the stupid category?

  • Members 196 posts
    Aug. 8, 2023, 12:38 a.m.

    Yes that is absolutely in the stupid category , his only interest was in generating clicks to Instagram or YouTube with no interest beyond self promotion and no consideration for anyone bar himself . The race had not started so no one was at any risk at all and they were protesting a valid concern. And after a small delay the race went on as normal no one was ever at the slightest risk

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    Aug. 8, 2023, 12:46 a.m.

    To be fair, doing stupid things is not entirely in the realm of the morons. I've seen some very intelligent people do some pretty stupid things at times.
    What makes the difference though in my opinion, is whether you learn from it. Sometimes you only get one chance though.

  • Members 196 posts
    Aug. 8, 2023, 1:13 a.m.

    That is true I was watching some interesting discussions about the potential risks of AI from very well informed people, yet other very smart people are determined to go ahead developing AI regardless of potential risks. Look what that bar steward skynet did in terminator 😀 Though joking aside I do see some potential for very great risks going forward with AI.

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    Aug. 8, 2023, 3:35 a.m.

    Absolutely. As far as I can tell, AI gathers all its "knowledge" off of the interwebz, and we all know how reliable that can be 😂😂
    Or am I thinking of something different?

  • Members 244 posts
    Aug. 8, 2023, 11:56 a.m.

    It was the social media self-promotion that generated the income (including, reportedly, some sponsorships and event bookings) for him to pursue this lifestyle. “Clicks’ were a means to income for him. Nobody eats a “like”. They eat from the results of the promotion. And, for ultra dangerous stuff like this, at some point there is a good chance that they don’t eat anymore.

    Do circus performers who do all sorts of really dangerous stuff for money - often without safety measures, promoted by the circus and paid for by ticket sales, fall into the stupid category too?

    Assuming that this analysis is roughly accurate, who on this list falls into the stupid category?

    chessintheair.com/the-risk-of-dying-doing-what-we-love/

    Anyone? No one? These are all legal activities. Does only illegal (and dangerous) activities fall into the stupid category in your mind?

  • Members 599 posts
    Aug. 31, 2023, 4 a.m.
  • Aug. 31, 2023, 5:57 p.m.

    No - it's a memory of a good time that they had. In the olden days you had to get someone else to take a picture with you in it. No one objected to that.

    ALan

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    Aug. 31, 2023, 7 p.m.

    Amsterdam has recently banned cruise ships from docking at the city's main terminal.

    www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/amsterdam-bans-cruise-ships-180982606/#:~:text=Amsterdam%27s%20city%20council%20voted%20last,New%20York%20Times%27%20Isabella%20Kwai.

    Other European countries are imposing fines and restrictions amid tourist overcrowding.

    economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/visit/these-european-countries-are-imposing-fines-and-restrictions-amid-tourist-overcrowding/articleshow/102470967.cms?from=mdr

    The issue is overtourism impacts the residents not only in quality of life but in cost to provide the additional services required. I don't think it is the selfie that is at issue but the impact of the throngs of tourist ganging up to take the selfie.

    This summer multiple national parks in the US and recreational areas managed by the National Forest service have implemented a timed entry reservation system to get into the facilities to mitigate crowds larger than the capability of the area to support. Two examples is the Mt. Evans Scenic Byway and Rocky Mountain National Park.

    www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/timed-entry-permit-reservations-park-access.htm

    It is gotten to the point that the crowds are just too large to not control the flow.

  • Members 535 posts
    Aug. 31, 2023, 7:22 p.m.

    Referring to the "Social Media "stupidity of climbers >>for<< getting a selfie.

    It was 1981. One of my colleagues was doing "finger climbing" as a hobby.

    He explained to me that he was relying only on his own fingers to keep the body attached to the walls, while his feet were giving him plenty of support for balancing, that was the reason he never went roped.

    Short of time on a project, he was not able to go practicing on his usual 80mt hill rock face.

    So one evening before it was too dark he decided to climb immediately after work,
    and entered the windows on the third floor starting from the garage.

    Only a few colleagues were in the office, and what he did was absolutely not for "Show"

    Alas, the Chief was also late that evening and was passing in one of the corridors.
    Things didn't go well - even if he was not fired,

    Taking life-endangering risk on Company premises<< was serious enough

    Special people do special things for the Joy of doing them

    ( selfies may be a plus, but not the main reason )