• JimKassonpanorama_fish_eye
    1738 posts
    2 years ago

    Made some progress today...

    2023-05-16 14.05.45.jpg

    2023-05-16 14.05.45.jpg

    JPG, 6.6 MB, uploaded by JimKasson 2 years ago.

  • simplejoyhelp_outline
    1662 posts
    2 years ago

    Wow - that looks great. Congrats! Your setup seems very sophisticated. Mine looks a bit like a Fisher Price version of that. 😅

    What is the device your HR Digaron lens is pointing towards?

  • StanDisbrowpanorama_fish_eye
    463 posts
    2 years ago

    Hi,

    Jim has a super scanner there. One day, I wanna make one myself. All I have is an old Nikon PB-4, PS-4 and 105mm Bellows Lens. So it only does 135 film and I have MF film I can't scan.

    Glad to see it made the move OK. Even gladder to see Jim felt like putting it all back together. :)

    Stan

  • JimKassonpanorama_fish_eye
    1738 posts
    2 years ago

    That box started out as a Film Toaster, but has been modified quite a bit. I'm using it for film scanning.

  • simplejoyhelp_outline
    1662 posts
    2 years ago

    Very interesting. Found your description of it here:
    blog.kasson.com/gfx-100/scanning-black-and-white-negatives-with-a-gfx-100s/

    While I don't have any film to scan, I was wondering recently what the absolute best lens for a setup like that (not including your genius steampunk-scanner box of course) might be. Not that many lenses are actually outstanding at 1:1. Have you tried the following:

    Nothing might fully match it perhaps, but I'm pretty sure there is a significantly simpler and cheaper solution which gets you close. You can do it! 👍

  • JimKassonpanorama_fish_eye
    1738 posts
    2 years ago

    I have not tried either of those lenses. The SK Makro Symmar 120 mm f/5.6 industrial lenses are as good for scanning as the Rodie, but significantly less convenient, as you have to change lenses when your reproduction ratio changes. If you don't buy all four, the SK lenses are quite a bit cheaper. The Rodie goes from 1:3 to 3:1.

  • IliahBorgpanorama_fish_eye
    976 posts
    2 years ago

    I wonder what are your thoughts on using collimated light.

  • JimKassonpanorama_fish_eye
    1738 posts
    2 years ago

    Even if I could figure out how to do it, I'd worry about it making the dust more apparent. But I admit that I've never seriously considered it. The lighting geometry I'm using now is similar to a cold light enlarging head.

  • IliahBorgpanorama_fish_eye
    976 posts
    2 years ago

    Yes.
    I'm trying two things: a 170mm condenser and a Fresnel lens.

    I use the same mounting oil as for drum scanners.

  • Rich42panorama_fish_eye
    834 posts
    2 years ago

    What oil is that?

    Rich

  • IliahBorgpanorama_fish_eye
    976 posts
    2 years ago
  • Rich42panorama_fish_eye
    834 posts
    2 years ago

    I've been a drum scanner operator for over 30 years.

    The industry-standard mounting fluid has always been pharmaceutical-grade/food-grade mineral oil. Available from any drug store or pharmacy for about $3-5 for a 16 oz bottle. Almost a life-time supply for most optical lab purposes.

    Mineral oil is the perfect fluid for this use. It's water-white, optically transparent. Perfectly harmless to film and optical parts such as plastics, o-rings, gaskets, lenses, etc. It can be left on film or optics for years, never yellows or dries, wipes off completely without any residue. Perfect.

    We use(d) pure naphtha for cleaning fluid. Ronsonol lighter fluid is pure naphtha. Always available at supermarket check-out counters in 8 oz bottles. Cheap and plentiful.

    Naphtha is highly restricted in many states and can't be gotten any other way than small quantities as lighter fluid. I used to buy 4-6 bottles at a time. Here in California, while it is very restricted, It can be special-ordered in gallons from paint stores such as Sherwin-Williams.

    Kami cleaning fluid is nothing but pure Naphtha. We always wondered how they got away with the exorbitant prices they charged for mounting fluid and cleaner. The joke always was, "You can buy better, but you can't pay more."

    Rich

  • IliahBorgpanorama_fish_eye
    976 posts
    2 years ago
  • Rich42panorama_fish_eye
    834 posts
    2 years ago