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The lowest form of photography is ...

sybersitizen
May 6, 2024
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    sybersitizen
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    May 6, 2024, 6:06 p.m. May 6, 2024, 6:06 p.m.
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    Just some harmless idle thoughts here, so don't get too worked up.

    By form of photography I mean the genre and the intent ... not the gear, and not the subject. Some forms would include portraiture, sports, street, landscape, family, photojournalism, etc. I'm excluding anything that is not specifically framed and shot by a human - things like security cameras, satellite cameras, etc.

    The lowest form that comes to mind is the hand-held selfie (and yes, I've shot some of those myself). Any other opinions?

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    davidwien
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    May 6, 2024, 6:10 p.m. May 6, 2024, 6:10 p.m.
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    @sybersitizen has written:

    Just some harmless idle thoughts here, so don't get too worked up.

    By form of photography I mean the genre and the intent ... not the gear, and not the subject. Some forms would include portraiture, sports, street, landscape, family, photojournalism, etc. I'm excluding anything that is not specifically framed and shot by a human - things like security cameras, satellite cameras, etc.

    The lowest form that comes to mind is the hand-held selfie (and yes, I've shot some of those myself). Any other opinions?

    Can you back up your assertion with reasons?

    David

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    bobn2
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    May 6, 2024, 6:11 p.m. May 6, 2024, 6:11 p.m.
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    @sybersitizen has written:

    Just some harmless idle thoughts here, so don't get too worked up.

    By form of photography I mean the genre and the intent ... not the gear, and not the subject. Some forms would include portraiture, sports, street, landscape, family, photojournalism, etc. I'm excluding anything that is not specifically framed and shot by a human - things like security cameras, satellite cameras, etc.

    The lowest form that comes to mind is the hand-held selfie (and yes, I've shot some of those myself). Any other opinions?

    See my thread here.
    Anyhow, I wouldn't rank them. If you want a selfie, then a selfie is a very good thing to have. If I was forced to choose the 'lowest form of photography' I'd say the 'art nude'.

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    NCV
    Members 2141 posts
    May 6, 2024, 7:06 p.m. May 6, 2024, 7:06 p.m.
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    @sybersitizen has written:

    Just some harmless idle thoughts here, so don't get too worked up.

    By form of photography I mean the genre and the intent ... not the gear, and not the subject. Some forms would include portraiture, sports, street, landscape, family, photojournalism, etc. I'm excluding anything that is not specifically framed and shot by a human - things like security cameras, satellite cameras, etc.

    The lowest form that comes to mind is the hand-held selfie (and yes, I've shot some of those myself). Any other opinions?

    "Up skirting photography on crowded public transport?

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    ArvoJ
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    May 6, 2024, 7:12 p.m. May 6, 2024, 7:12 p.m.
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    Face in the hole.

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    sybersitizen
    Members 167 posts
    May 6, 2024, 7:34 p.m. May 6, 2024, 7:34 p.m.
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    @davidwien has written:
    @sybersitizen has written:

    Just some harmless idle thoughts here, so don't get too worked up.

    By form of photography I mean the genre and the intent ... not the gear, and not the subject. Some forms would include portraiture, sports, street, landscape, family, photojournalism, etc. I'm excluding anything that is not specifically framed and shot by a human - things like security cameras, satellite cameras, etc.

    The lowest form that comes to mind is the hand-held selfie (and yes, I've shot some of those myself). Any other opinions?

    Can you back up your assertion with reasons?

    If it was anything other than a harmless idle thought, I might make such an effort. As it is, I decline.

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    LeeJay
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    May 6, 2024, 8:04 p.m. May 6, 2024, 8:04 p.m.
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    Any shot where editing is used to alter what the original scene actually looked like. Sky replacement, the liquify tool, etc. I'm fine with minor edits and even touchups where the intent is to be faithful to the original scene, but where major changes in shape or content happen, that's just sleezy to me.

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    sybersitizen
    Members 167 posts
    May 6, 2024, 8:23 p.m. May 6, 2024, 8:23 p.m.
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    @NCV has written:

    "Up skirting photography on crowded public transport?

    There's one I hadn't thought of, and it even works on more than one level.

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    DonaldB
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    May 6, 2024, 9:43 p.m. May 6, 2024, 9:43 p.m.
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    camera on the ground, shooting pretty models 🤪

    coco claudia web 16 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    coco claudia web 16 (2024_04_28 04_38_45 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 2.0 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 6, 2024.

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    sybersitizen
    Members 167 posts
    May 6, 2024, 10:10 p.m. May 6, 2024, 10:10 p.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:

    camera on the ground ...

    Mine shafts go much lower than that.

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    DonaldB
    Members 2433 posts
    May 6, 2024, 10:27 p.m. May 6, 2024, 10:27 p.m.
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    @sybersitizen has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    camera on the ground ...

    Mine shafts go much lower than that.

    how about under 😁

    Spider constallation (2023_12_13 08_17_17 UTC).jpg

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    Spider constallation (2023_12_13 08_17_17 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 15.5 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 6, 2024.

    2024-01-26-05.39.14 ZS PMax 4x copy (2024_01_26 08_58_48 UTC).jpg

    JPG, 11.6 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 6, 2024.

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    sybersitizen
    Members 167 posts
    May 6, 2024, 10:42 p.m. May 6, 2024, 10:42 p.m.
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    @DonaldB has written:
    @sybersitizen has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    camera on the ground ...

    Mine shafts go much lower than that.

    how about under 😁

    If those weren't taken in a mine shaft, they could be lower.

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    DanHasLeftForum
    Members 4254 posts
    May 7, 2024, 12:33 a.m. May 7, 2024, 12:33 a.m.
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    @LeeJay has written:

    Any shot where editing is used to alter what the original scene actually looked like. Sky replacement, the liquify tool, etc. I'm fine with minor edits and even touchups where the intent is to be faithful to the original scene, but where major changes in shape or content happen, that's just sleezy to me.

    If the intent of the final image is a documentary version of the scene when the photo was taken then yes, I agree.

    But if the intent is to make an artistic version of the scene then any editing is ok.

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    DanHasLeftForum
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    May 7, 2024, 12:35 a.m. May 7, 2024, 12:35 a.m.
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    @sybersitizen has written:

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    The lowest form that comes to mind is the hand-held selfie (and yes, I've shot some of those myself). Any other opinions?

    Pornography

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    finnan
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    May 7, 2024, 8:20 a.m. May 7, 2024, 8:20 a.m.
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    HAND.

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    StanDisbrow
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    May 7, 2024, 2:26 p.m. May 7, 2024, 2:26 p.m.
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    Hi,

    This brings Selfie Pornography to mind....

    AKA Sexting.

    Stan

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    sybersitizen
    Members 167 posts
    May 7, 2024, 7:16 p.m. May 7, 2024, 7:16 p.m.
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    @finnan has written:

    "Selfie" singles out the subject, thus you broke your rules.

    You didn't understand the 'rules'. Almost every genre and every photo has some kind of subject. I intended to focus on the genre and intent, and one genre is portraiture, which includes self portraiture. And selfies usually also include backgrounds, as well as other people and things.

    Rather than spend further time debating the point, you can pretend I didn't include the phrase 'and not the subject' and just let it go.

    Quoted message:

    Paparazzi.
    Especially photos taken Down Under. 🤡

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    LeeJay
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    May 7, 2024, 7:24 p.m. May 7, 2024, 7:24 p.m.
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    @DanHasLeftForum has written:
    @LeeJay has written:

    Any shot where editing is used to alter what the original scene actually looked like. Sky replacement, the liquify tool, etc. I'm fine with minor edits and even touchups where the intent is to be faithful to the original scene, but where major changes in shape or content happen, that's just sleezy to me.

    If the intent of the final image is a documentary version of the scene when the photo was taken then yes, I agree.

    But if the intent is to make an artistic version of the scene then any editing is ok.

    I kind of disagree, unless you specifically say it's not real or it's so obviously not real that you don't have to say it.

    For me, photography is a documentary medium. Paint and so forth is for creating from nothing.

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