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    May 11, 2025, 12:17 p.m.

    Wow again! Here we got another well told story with supporting images. The many images hints about the many different styles of these dwarfs. This is fun.
    Thank you for the great story!

    (We stayed, a very short stop on our way south, for a day (two nights) in Wroclaw 20 years ago. I and my better half were traveling Poland, camping for two weeks. In Wroclaw we stayed at a kind of olympic site close to Hotel Olympic. I had never heard of olympic games in Wroclaw but understand the site was used for something during the Olympic games in Germany 1936 (and Wroclaw was Breslau in eastern Germany).
    We took a tram to the city center for walking and eating and I don't recall having seen a single dwarf. Did we just miss them or were they not there? Or, were we in the wrong part of the town? Sorry for the digress but I find it a bit annoying having missed 800 dwarfs.)

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    May 11, 2025, 12:18 p.m.

    (double posted by mistake, can be removed
    /Jonas)

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    May 11, 2025, 12:58 p.m.

    Initial reaction: Nice street. Wooden buildings. That wasn't a common sight in Istanbul as I recall it. Am I right thinking the purpose of this image is to show the row of nice wooden buildings to the right?

    A second look: The image somehow exudes perfection. The exposure and the tonality are good, the lines are straight and i get a feeling the vantage point is carefully chosen. What is there to say about it? Is it in need of a human being making it interesting (as commented above)? I don't think so, I can be perfectly happy with the buildings only as a sort of documentary shot. But then, as a such, it isn't perfect. The sunshine comes from the behind. Together with the blue sky this lends the houses a bluish tone, a discoloration. This isn't seen at the first sight as the depth lures the eye away to the background and the left side of the image is nice if perhaps a tad blueish.

    Would it be possible to shoot from another angle, perhaps not exactly right on but closer to right on skipping the current far away background? At a day with more clouds making it easier to get good light and colors? I'm sure the third house from the right is more lively colored than we can see now.
    This is the first time i have seen an image of interest on the net in the Display P3 color space. Is there an idea behind this choice? I ask as anyone with a system not color managed will get even more pale colors.

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    May 11, 2025, 4:16 p.m.

    Thanks for taking the time to look and comment.

    You spent almost as much concern with the way this site displays image thumbnails as with the image itself. For a site interested in display of images, the design couldn't be worse than if the thumbnail were just a blank gray placeholder. I have never been able to come up with an image resolution that results in the thumbnail doing the full image justice. Sometimes the thumbnail displays very small, sometimes, half the screen width. I'll resist further comment about the site design.

    Always view images here at full size. And set up your browser to allow full screen display, if possible. I'm amazed that anyone viewing images here on anything but a large screen can get any appreciation for image quality.

    The car was captured in somewhat challenging conditions. It was dismal, heavily overcast, raining. (Actually some of my favorite shooting conditions)

    It was parked in a cramped space with overhanging trees on one side, making framing it difficult. I had no control over the background.

    It's amazing how low to the ground Corvettes are. One must be almost lying supine while driving. I was crouched, balancing on my toes, doing my best not to put one knee down on the soaked turf, trying to line up things as symmetrically as possible. (And I'm pleased how well that worked out)

    The combination of a 50mm lens on a medium format camera resulted in a very "wide angle" perspective, giving a car designed to look threatening, muscular and lean, a cartoonish, rounded, child-like "face." IMHO.

    The smoke-gray headlight covers, meant to further the menacing look of the car, add to the appearance of cartoonish, elf-like eyes.

    I think the little fellow is smiling slightly, asking to be let back in the house so he can get dry.

    Rich

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    May 11, 2025, 4:52 p.m.

    My own frustrations with this kind of outcome has led me to almost give up on Topaz as a solution. It has got worse instead of better after they combined their noise reduction with the sharpening and named it Topaz AI. It's harder to control now too. I get less weirdness with OnOne noise removal or the secondary noise removal tool in Lightroom. One of my Topaz outcomes of my teenage grandson playing soccer makes him look so devil possessed that he wanted it made into a horror-movie type poster.

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    May 11, 2025, 5:37 p.m.

    I am so glad I have not upgraded from my (old, separate) copies of Topaz Sharpen and Gigapixel AI. I use Sharpen very judiciously, and check every last pixel before showing any sharpened image.

    Rich

  • May 11, 2025, 6:58 p.m.

    Re: the thumbnail issue. Yes, it's a known problem and we are hoping to improve it in the next version. But that's not for a while. So, please bear with us and yes, display the full image if you want to really see what it looks like.

    Alan

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    May 11, 2025, 7:03 p.m.

    Oh yes, I look at nearly all images as full size as possible using a 32" 4K screen and a color managed system. Cars are usually of little interest to me but the mention of a rainy day made me click further.
    Reading your comment make me understand the troubles you had taking the image and I hope you got another audience with the sense to appreciate it more than I did at first.
    Leaving all that aside - your comment about a rainy day series of images sounds promising. Maybe we will see more from it?

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    May 11, 2025, 7:51 p.m.

    To my eyes it appears that the thumbnail/preview algorithm discards too many of the "extreme" values as outlier values and the result is a muddier composite of the more average values. It removes the sparkle from the ring, so to speak. It really makes quite a mess of some of the images posed here to my eyes, making them look flat and giving the appearance of a colour cast in some (if you lose the outlying tones in a predominantly warm image then you lose the cool whites and an average value loses much of slight but necessary blue).

  • May 11, 2025, 9:18 p.m.

    Thanks for the analysis Andrew. I don't know how it's done, by my guess would be some sort of standard library that Martin got from somewhere. I will mention it to him (again) and see if there's anything we can do in the short term.

    Alan

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    May 11, 2025, 10:47 p.m.

    Thanks very much.

    Here's my first post from the SoCal Rainy Day series: dprevived.com/t/wednesday-cc-no-theme-thread-887-revived-107-on-2025-04-16/7167/#post-100067

    I'll post more later.

    Rich

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    May 12, 2025, 7:31 a.m.
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    May 12, 2025, 7:38 a.m.

    Hi Alan

    Status update,….

    Over a month ago I started a post to show a method how users can post images and get a “preview” with a much better, high res quality (link)

    This method works fine, but does have the disadvantages that it is a bit tricky for the user to use, and the threads would generally load somewhat slower on slow internet connections.
    The better solution was obviously to just improve the quality of the previews, so that everyone can use them with no extra effort for the user.
    …So I started to work with Arvo to find a set of settings that have an optimum balance between making the previews look much better and allowing the webpage to load reasonably fast.
    After a few experiments, Arvo found those optimal settings, and they have been approved by the admins.

    These settings now “just” need to be changed in the website code.
    But there is apparently no time for this ☹
    I have no idea if this change of settings is easy to do, or perhaps a much more complex task?
    Or, perhaps someone else could help make the change ?

    Waiting for some “new version” would push this good (approved) quality improvement out to some unknown distant future ☹
    Is there a chance to get this done in the current version?

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    May 12, 2025, 8:33 a.m.

    Jonas,

    Again, thanks for looking and taking time to comment.

    I've had a career preparing and presenting images for viewing. As a graphic designer and commercial printer, placing images on the printed page was a job and a labor of love.

    The space in which an image is presented has as much impact on the viewer as the image itself. I would often spend many times the cost of the job getting the layout right and the look as pleasing as possible. Blowing way past the profit in the job was almost a routine thing as the real cost of actually getting ink on paper was (is) often an afterthought in any customer's thought process (an individual or a corporation) putting together a flyer or a corporate report.

    But in the end, job after job, my reputation was on display, every time.

    I've posted diptychs and triptychs on this site (they're assembled in Photoshop as multiple images, then flattened to a single entity) as a way to try to "control" the white space of the page around the image. White space can make or break an image.

    My method works to some extent. The three images of Agave work for my eye for reasons very different from the reactions of any individual viewer. If I (we) could actually control the page display the way a photography site should actually work, I could make each of these images as stand alone and appear more pleasing. But the multiple image layout has other advantages of its own.

    I can do all that on my own Web site on which I'm still working. Maybe one day I'll post a link. Thank goodness Square Space is so attuned to the esthetics of image display and site design. Agave exists there both as a triptych and as individual images.

    Please do continue to contribute here. And participate every week. There is no such thing as an image that's not worthy of presenting. An image from recent days or from as many years ago as you want. It's really a lot of fun, despite the shortcomings we've discussed. We're always looking for new members. The benefit of participation far out-weighs the problems. The best weeks are those where lively discussion is triggered by one or multiple images. The only important rule here is civility. The only things that are important are images. No egos. No agendas. Any given week is totally unpredictable. "It's like a box of chocolates." One never knows what's in the wrapper!

    Rich

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    May 12, 2025, 9:05 a.m.

    OK, I'm late to the party. The discussion with Rich make me post a recent image of one of my grandchildren during a walk downtown. The one thing done today is converting the image to sRGB as i don't trust all phones, pads and computers out there to be color managed. (Rec. 2020 Rich?) looking at the triptych today make me think I need to fix it and add some white space both between images as well as around them all. Let me know what you think!

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    JPG, 1.0 MB, uploaded by JonasB on May 12, 2025.

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    May 12, 2025, 1:37 p.m.

    An elegant abstract that makes straight glass appear like a waterfall of flowing water.
    I would even (almost) go so far in editing that I might be tempted to (certainly) crop out the darker (not flowing) part of hte building on the left and most if not all of the darker part on the right. I wonder what it would look like if you kept only the center, brightest part, without a hint of 3d depth beyond the edges of the façade that is facing us.

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    May 12, 2025, 1:41 p.m.

    I like the idea of that open air gallery that invites to combine a good walk with the enjoyment of photography.

    Looking just at your four images here, I really really like the first one, with its nice layers and impressive depth in the landscape.

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    May 12, 2025, 1:44 p.m.

    A market is always a good place to go hunt for interesting shapes, textures and colours.
    I would not say that these are up there with your dam birds or other more artistic ventures, but they are good enough to keep the photographic juices flowing and to prevent stiffness of eye, mind and shutter button finger.