No, Topaz AI is pretty good.
Her face looks like a figure in a wax museum.
And there are even square patterns on her clothes.
Mike should have seen that before!
No, Topaz AI is pretty good.
Her face looks like a figure in a wax museum.
And there are even square patterns on her clothes.
Mike should have seen that before!
OK, I'm late to the party. The discussion with Rich make me post a recent image of one of my grandchildren during a walk downtown. The one thing done today is converting the image to sRGB as i don't trust all phones, pads and computers out there to be color managed. (Rec. 2020 Rich?) looking at the triptych today make me think I need to fix it and add some white space both between images as well as around them all. Let me know what you think!
There is so much to complain about, but I really like these photos.
@minniev has written: @Kumsal has written: @MikeFewster has written:The Bell's MilkBar. Again. Broken Hill. NSW.
Congratulations, Mike.
You had the woman in the foreground created by artificial intelligence without anyone noticing until now.
AI is very bad when it comes to fingers.
In this case, it failed again.
Why do people look at the posted photos so superficially?I looked at this image pretty closely and I see nothing to suggest the figure in the foreground is an AI construct. I've never seen an AI construct that could emulate lens distortion and angle distortion simultaneously in a convincing way. There's nothing about her hands that suggests the usual AI problems with hands. AI people often have too many or too few fingers, but this woman has the right number in the right angle for the position she's in and the task she's doing. AI would likely have made a mess of the lettering on her clothing. The reflections in the metal cup would have been less convincing. I would suspect an AI-based noise remover/sharpener such as Topaz was utilized here, and would account for the mild oddities we see (the weird distortion of a vein in her left hand, some textural anomalies in some reflective surfaces like her glasses and the edge of the ice chest, and the unnatural smoothness of her skin). I use Topaz products sometimes and see this behavior in Topaz AI, a program which I consider equal parts blessing and curse.
No, Topaz AI is pretty good.
Her face looks like a figure in a wax museum.
And there are even square patterns on her clothes.
Mike should have seen that before!
For some uses, Topaz AI is ok, but even when applied lightly it often gives me people who look like the zombie sisters and brothers of Mike's lady here - too much skin smoothing, sometimes strange facial distortions, and too many weird artifacts.
The square pattern is an oddity that I'm not going to attribute to Topaz AI since I've never seen it render such as that and I can't figure out quite how it could. What do you think it is? It looks more like a sensor pattern to me but I am not familiar with Sony cameras. Maybe an Interaction between camera and Topaz? There was a pattern in an image from this same place that Mike posted last week, but a quite different one. What it had in common was prevalence in the dark greens. I'm not sure what's going on. I've had some weird artifacts erupt in images I took in dark places with high ISOs. Hope Mike can sort it out!
There is so much to complain about, but I really like these photos.
Cool, and thank you for commenting!
Just to be clear, I really like the color palette. I too am an inveterate fiddler and experimenter, and old film emulation is one of the many toys I like to play with. I was just warning you about the patches of bright reflected light on her jacket, especially the shoulder, and the very top of her head that may not be easy to render in print.
Aren't grandchildren the most fun there is in this world? I adore my 3, but miss the magical stage your little one is in.
...an inveterate fiddler... Heh, I like that. Digital has made it very easy, or simply put, possible!
No worries, I think I took the message as it was intended. print... My printer died some time ago and I miss it. I guess I'll have to buy a new one at the end of the summer.
The Bell's MilkBar. Again. Broken Hill. NSW.
The square pattern is an oddity that I'm not going to attribute to Topaz AI since I've never seen it render such as that and I can't figure out quite how it could. What do you think it is? It looks more like a sensor pattern to me but I am not familiar with Sony cameras. Maybe an Interaction between camera and Topaz? There was a pattern in an image from this same place that Mike posted last week, but a quite different one. What it had in common was prevalence in the dark greens. I'm not sure what's going on. I've had some weird artifacts erupt in images I took in dark places with high ISOs. Hope Mike can sort it out!
I went back to last week and had a look at Mike's last image from the wonderful Milkbar. Wooden ribs in the seatings!
I have used Sony cameras since i bought the RX1 back in 2012 (I think) and I also have owned the A7CR (great little camera) Mike used at the bar. The modern sensors of today are great and the only sensor-related pattern i know of is the phase-AF line that sometimes can show during certain circumstances. The square pattern is strange and doesn't look like anything I ever seen. The shadows are also blotchy in a way I thought was a thing of a distant past.
Yes, I to really hope Mike can sort it out!
@minniev has written:Good to see you again Jonas! A nice little triptych, a trio of photos with a logical and artistic sequence to describe a personable and very cute little girl emphasizing her most immediately noticeable feature: that wild and amazing curly hair. Though I don't have Rich's extensive experience, my impression is that more white space between and around the images would be a good thing. Agree with Rich about the black border. There are areas where the bright sun has leached color from her shoulder and her hair. That looks like it works great for the hair, less great for the clothing. Looking at it online, all of it processes visually as a set of lovely images but getting it to render the way you want in ink and paper may give you some challenges. I would be very careful how and on what I printed it.
Hi minniev,
The little girl is 2,5 y.o. and her greatest feature can't be seen but really is that she recently started to speak properly. Until a couple of weeks ago i have understood in total three or maybe four words only. From frustration to fun!Thank you for your comments and ideas.
I now totally get it: no black borders. Bigger white areas I agree about. I'll have to redo this one.
Sometimes I think I get this with triptychs but in reality I have to think and try a couple of ideas before getting satisfied.About the colors: They are kind of wild. For a change I tried some of all these "filmistic presets" you can find everywhere. This one is supposed to make the images look more like some brand of negative color film. From time to time I can't help myself and revert to stupid experiments. I think that is an illness since the I got to try an old Rank Xerox color copier for the first time. It was possible to project images to it using a slide projector and a mirror. Crazy stuff, and fun.
If the poor childs mother would like the triptych printed I think I can make something decent from the raws. Without borders. For now it goes on-line only, in line with your thoughts. Thanks again!
I've really liked the exchange of ideas around this triptych, and I also like the images themselves. There is a dynamism there, with the full body portrait first, and then a close up with turned head that gives way to a face. The inclusion of that middle image gives the whole a sense of motion.
@MikeFewster has written:The Bell's MilkBar. Again. Broken Hill. NSW.
@minniev has written:The square pattern is an oddity that I'm not going to attribute to Topaz AI since I've never seen it render such as that and I can't figure out quite how it could. What do you think it is? It looks more like a sensor pattern to me but I am not familiar with Sony cameras. Maybe an Interaction between camera and Topaz? There was a pattern in an image from this same place that Mike posted last week, but a quite different one. What it had in common was prevalence in the dark greens. I'm not sure what's going on. I've had some weird artifacts erupt in images I took in dark places with high ISOs. Hope Mike can sort it out!
I went back to last week and had a look at Mike's last image from the wonderful Milkbar. Wooden ribs in the seatings!
I have used Sony cameras since i bought the RX1 back in 2012 (I think) and I also have owned the A7CR (great little camera) Mike used at the bar. The modern sensors of today are great and the only sensor-related pattern i know of is the phase-AF line that sometimes can show during certain circumstances. The square pattern is strange and doesn't look like anything I ever seen. The shadows are also blotchy in a way I thought was a thing of a distant past.
Yes, I to really hope Mike can sort it out!
This may be part of the story. community.topazlabs.com/t/strange-pattern-in-the-background-after-processing/49711
This claims to have a fix community.topazlabs.com/t/resolved-in-v3-5-2-square-grid-artifacts-on-mac-click-here-if-you-get-this/85859/199
It seems it is an interaction between sensor and Topaz software.