• Members 2089 posts
    June 13, 2025, 2:29 a.m.

    Alan, I'm looking at these as a series so my comments are about the sequencing. Should we feel as though we are on the walk with you? I'd therefore prefer to see them arranged to reflect the changing light. I don't think shot 2 with its warmer colours should precede some of the blue sky shots. Similarly, consider closing the sequence with one of the darkest shots. Perhaps one of the three sunset reflections and buoy on the water?

    I'm not sure what 5 is but it's interesting. If it is a symbol that is meaningful to the place, I might use it as the opening shot to identify the place we will then explore. Love shot 4 and the sky suggests it should be earlier than the sunset tone images.
    6 then 7 have a deepening transition as the sun dips.
    8,9,10 feel too similar. I'd suggest using only one of them- probably 8 with its interesting positioning of the the buoy and its darker colour bringing the series to a chronological conclusion.
    11 feels wrong to me. 8.9.10 are more interesting but if you wanted to use it I think it should be sequenced before 8/9/10

    7 is great. Your final shot is something of an anticlimax once we have seen 7. If you want to use the current final shot, I'd put it in before 7 so we build towards 7.

  • Members 961 posts
    June 13, 2025, 3:49 a.m.

    Mike,

    Thanks very much for the response.

    Your reaction is a bit of a surprise, but I understand after your explanation.

    I assure you there was absolutely no political intent on my part. I don't think the flag really had much political significance the occupants either. The neighborhood is a very relaxed place. There was no national holiday at that time.

    Americans display flags all the time. Not out of super-patriotism or jingoism, but a range from national pride to just liking the colorful appearance.

    I saw the flag (which is a frequent occurrence in the area as a festive thing) as a splash of color against a very unusually colored building. Not unusual at all.

    I think you're reading too much into the situation, but if the culture in Australia is negative about the display of national flags, ok.

    Again, I appreciate the comments.

    Rich

  • Members 72 posts
    June 13, 2025, 9:42 a.m.

    Thank you for your kind words. If I had access to that friend on a more regular basis, I would certainly be tempted, but alas, he lives in a different country. But I'll definitely post them in the B&W thread, when it comes around for next week! :D

  • Members 2089 posts
    June 13, 2025, 11:25 a.m.

    Thanks Rich. As I carefully said and as you picked up, I was aware that culture determines how we respond. In giving my reaction, I was aware that my conditioned response didn't mean anything at all about the intent of a photographer from a different culture or the interpretation that might be made from a viewer from a different culture.
    It's the grasping of shade of difference that makes discussions across national boundaries worthwhile.

  • June 13, 2025, 12:36 p.m.

    Mike,

    they weren't in sequence - and maybe the should have been. Thanks for the tip (which is why I like this forum). I will sort something out for next time. I'll also post comments against each photo (If I have time (ha ha!) I'll sort something out for the ones above).

    Alan

  • Members 2089 posts
    June 13, 2025, 9:02 p.m.

    I've been thinking about this further. You would find Australians who disagree with me.
    National flags on government buildings or significant government owned facilities/services- no problems. OK when used on things that might be outside Australia to indicate where home is.

  • Members 52 posts
    June 14, 2025, 9:06 a.m.

    Hi Rich,
    Thank you for another interesting image.
    To me this is one is difficult. At first glance it's very nice; the orange colored little building and the saturated deep blue sky together with the bright stair and the darker pottery makes for an image to sop by at. That's is all beautiful. I also like how some details inside the building are visible and also the fact we can see through the little house. The greenary and the pots in front of the porch. Great!

    The next thing hitting the receptors and the nervous system is the flag. The cultural thing about it as discussed by you and Mike is one thing, more on that later. What I am thinking of here is the color collision caused by a) the red in the flag and the orange and b) the blueish white flag stripes and the white window frames. Then, further examining the image details we have a part of a red door to the left and finally an orange stripe or line at the extreme right.

    All this changes the first beautiful eye-catching impression into something else. It is not really messy but also not that clean and cool composition that may have been possible: I wonder if the red door could have been excluded by moving the camera a little to the right. The orange at the border, well, it can be cropped or painted away. The flag... maybe it isn't there every day? I don't know how that works. Maybe it shall be there.

    Why work a little more? I love his kind of well done documentation of all sorts of where people live and do whatever they are up to. In this case I also guess the type of building is kind of typical for he area and tourist operation. The steps up from the ground, the very small porch and the facade. Very nice!

    The flag. I have many times been fascinated by how the flag is handled in the US. it's so different from the typical Swedish flag culture. Having a flag that size and position as in the image would be considered tacky here. A flag is not anything you touch with your body all the time. A holder for the flag pole on the wall and a smaller flag is the common way here. The flag is also not on display every day here. There are also significant differences when it comes to bigger flag poles, flag sizes and display habits. Other way of using the flags also differs. Nobody here would get the idea to paint a flag on every tram or subway wagon for example. One of all the things making traveling fun and interesting.

  • Members 961 posts
    June 14, 2025, 2:58 p.m.

    Jonas,

    Thanks so much for the comments. I see things in my images I never would have appreciated when others critique them.

    As far as the various elements possibly competing in the image - combination of my just having to accept what is there after my best stab at composition and my not seeing things as well as I should have in the first place.

    This scene was a little messy, from a compositional standpoint. I tried to square things up as much as possible, get perspective under some control and just capture its funky appearance.

    The discussion about flags that has happened is fascinating!

    Rich