• Members 516 posts
    May 10, 2025, 7:41 p.m.

    Welcome to the Weekly Black and White Photography Thread # 15

    We’re dedicated to fostering discussions about Black and White photography. This open peer-to-peer forum allows critical feedback on images, leading to discussions on techniques, styles, interpretation, and storytelling. The first few weeks response has been outstanding - keep them coming.

    It’s easy - To participate: post an image or essay with a title, short description, and explanation. All comments must include the image or essay as a quote. Replies may or may not include quotes.

    THREAD GUIDELINES:
    1. This thread is for learning about Black and White photography.
    2. Post one image or photo essay for comments.
    3. Entries can be single images or short photo essays (3 to 10 connected images that tell a story).
    4. Give your entry a clear title and explain why you took it and the story it tells.
    5. Provide constructive feedback on others’ images/essays.
    6. Go beyond simple praise or dismissal.
    7. Explain why you like an image or essay.
    8. Negative feedback is welcome (be polite, honest, and constructive).
    9. Stay on topic and avoid politics or distractions.

    We refine our skill-craft through feedback - Analyzing prints pinned on the virtual wall is our approach, but discussions of styles and techniques are also acceptable. While most images are captured digitally, Black and White film can also discussed. The focus is on image.

    Post a photo or photo essay and get comments and feedback. In return, give honest but constructive opinions of others’ images. A simple “like” is insufficient. There are multiple levels of feedback: composition, technique, emotion and storytelling, etc.
    What caught your eye about an image and why? What draws you in and what distracts you? What changes would you make? Does the photographer tell their story? Does the image communicate their viewpoint or emotion? As W. Eugene Smith said, “A photo is a small voice, at best, but sometimes – just sometimes – one photograph or a group of them can lure our senses into awareness.” Does the image meet Smith’s criteria?

    Explore the image in your head, considering composition, perspective, toning, balance, exposure, and tonality. Consider the story, emotion or opinion the artist is trying to communicate. Provide feedback.

    Downloading and reposting - (please note: clear instructions are required).
It’s often challenging to verbalize useful comments about images. Instead, it’s easier to “show.” Unless the original poster specifically states otherwise, participants are free to download, alter, and repost images in replies to express their analysis and critique. The reposted image may remain permanently or be removed after a short period. Downloaded and altered images shall not be used for other purposes or uploaded elsewhere.

    Encouragement - When I first pinned a print on the cork-board for the professor and class to analyze, I was apprehensive. However, it proved to be an effective way to learn and develop my skills and vision. Well reasoned analysis and comments aid the artist in improving their vision, skill, and style. The goal is to promote and encourage people to enhance their artistic vision and skill in Black and White Photography by providing constructive feedback. General feedback is also welcome. Sharing techniques for capturing or processing images that aid in creating good Black and White images or photo essays is appreciated in replies.

    Why focus on Black and White - As Elliott Erwitt said, “Color is descriptive. Black and White is interpretive.” It’s an abstraction that simplifies photography by focusing on composition, forms, shapes, tonality, textures, and emotions. Ansel Adams famously said, “You don’t take a photograph, you make a photograph.”

    Clyde Butcher talks about the hundreds of photographers who flock to Inspiration Point in Yosemite National Park for the “golden hour.” However, the composition at sunrise is poor. For Black and White, it’s not about the color of the light, but the quality of the light. Ansel Adams arrived midmorning when the light was “right” to produce his iconic images. His iconic book, “Yosemite and the Range of Light,” had a significant impact on conservation and environmental movements in the West. It also attracts thousands of photographers each year to capture the “Range of Light.”

    clydebutcher.com

    Nick Ut’s “Napalm Girl” captured the horrors of the Vietnam War and profoundly impacted the United States. Stripped of distractions, the image exposed the terror in the children’s faces, prompting critical questioning of government actions. W. Eugene Smith’s “Minamata” warned the world. It exposed a corporation poisoning water and killing residents, highlighting the suffering of the Minamata community for profit. William Henry Jackson’s photographs convinced Congress to preserve Yellowstone as the first national park, leading to the creation of the National Park Service and commitment to wild land preservation.

    aboutphotography.blog/blog/the-terror-of-war-nick-uts-napalm-girl-1972
    www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/society-arts-culture/w-eugene-smith-minamata-warning-to-the-world/
    www.pbagalleries.com/first-photographic-images-of-yellowstone/

    Black and White strips away distractions to expose emotions. It tells unique stories in various photographic genres, from landscapes to social documentaries to portraiture. Check out Annie Leibovitz’s Black and White work.

    blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/why-artists-choose-black-and-white-photography/
    fstoppers.com/fashion/why-its-still-important-shoot-black-and-white-48141
    www.designspiration.com/save/1600176374707/

    Another resource is the “Daybooks of Edward Weston,” though dated, still relevant.

    Additional Resources - It is encouraged to discuss additional resources on Black and White photography in posts, whether in your images or commenting on others’ when those resources aid in the goals of the thread.

    Growing Together - The Black and White thread focuses on growth and learning together. Be active, honest, and respectful.

  • Members 516 posts
    May 10, 2025, 7:47 p.m.

    We should dress up every day

    While on a field trip to photograph waterfalls in the North Georgia mountains, we find a wonderful little falls and as we are busy photographing a young couple shows up to have pictures taken in their prom garb before the big night. Prom night seems to be a big night in the little nearby burg of Clayton, GA.

    GA Waterfalls_nz85392-20250503-0446.jpg

    GA Waterfalls_nz85392-20250503-0446.jpg

    JPG, 2.7 MB, uploaded by tprevatt on May 10, 2025.

  • May 10, 2025, 9:21 p.m.

    B&W is really hard to get right. But I think this works. I took it in B&W, then played around with settings until I got a 'vintage' look, Then added the vignette.

    vintage barge.jpg

    vintage barge.jpg

    JPG, 4.9 MB, uploaded by AlanSh on May 10, 2025.

  • Members 798 posts
    May 11, 2025, 12:17 a.m.

    Alan,

    You did a great job.

    That will make nice postcard or greeting card.

    Steve Thomas

  • Members 798 posts
    May 11, 2025, 12:48 a.m.

    The other night, I was reading about the advantages of shooting black and white with a tungsten white balance. I decided to give it a try, and I think I like it.

    This was shot at a Kelvin temperature of 3900K. I had to go through a little machinations. I had to first convert it from CR3 to jpg, and because I'm using my tablet, convert from color to B&W using Snapseed.

    The picture isn't much, but I think the cooler white balance temperature brings out the shadow details better than warmer temperatures do. This was shot at dusk.

    1000007012.jpg

    Steve Thomas

    1000007012.jpg

    JPG, 7.1 MB, uploaded by stevet1 on May 11, 2025.

  • Members 2087 posts
    May 11, 2025, 11:11 a.m.

    A photo I took into the rising sun on a bright morning a couple of years back. I've shared the color version but thought to try it in b&w. (The color version didn't have any more detail, just gold color). Borders on the abstract I guess.

    last week.jpg

    last week.jpg

    JPG, 2.1 MB, uploaded by minniev on May 11, 2025.

  • Members 798 posts
    May 11, 2025, 12:37 p.m.

    minniev,

    That's a very weird and wonderful picture.

    Very avant garde.

    Steve Thomas

  • Members 516 posts
    May 11, 2025, 1:53 p.m.

    Very nice indeed. The composition is exquisite with the reflections play a dual role in providing symmetry.

  • Members 516 posts
    May 11, 2025, 1:58 p.m.

    [quote="@AlanSh"]
    B&W is really hard to get right. But I think this works. I took it in B&W, then played around with settings until I got a 'vintage' look, Then added the vignette.

    vintage barge.jpg
    [/quote

    Alan, "right" is not the correct term. B&W is an abstraction. It removes color as a distraction or maybe even as a crutch. A little Selenium toning and you have a pictorialist image from the early 1900's.

  • May 11, 2025, 2:28 p.m.

    Thanks What is "Selenium toning"? [Yes, I will look it up as well]

  • May 11, 2025, 2:56 p.m.

    How about this? On the right lines?

    DSCF0172-1-2_Superlarge.jpg

    DSCF0172-1-2_Superlarge.jpg

    JPG, 4.9 MB, uploaded by AlanSh on May 11, 2025.

  • Members 516 posts
    May 11, 2025, 4:40 p.m.

    Along the right lines but maybe a bit strong. In the early 1900's toning was used to stabilize prints. There are many compounds that were used, copper, selenium, sepia (dark brown ink from the cuttlefish), organic materials like coffee and tea and even gold. Many of the classic images of the early works of Ansel Adams were toned with selenium toner to render them archival. I often tone images in C1 go give a hint the changed color base that results from toning.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXlZtuFa1qA

    Silver Efex Pro has a lot of the classical options.

  • Members 798 posts
    May 11, 2025, 6:11 p.m.

    This white fence just calls out for a B&W treatment.

    IMG_2847.JPG

    Steve Thomas

    IMG_2847.JPG

    JPG, 202.9 KB, uploaded by stevet1 on May 11, 2025.

  • Members 798 posts
    May 11, 2025, 6:17 p.m.

    Alan,

    :How about this? On the right lines?"

    Try a Sepia color tone. See what you think.

    Steve Thomas

  • May 11, 2025, 6:55 p.m.

    OK - I'll report back - probably tomorrow

    Alan

  • Members 274 posts
    May 11, 2025, 8:01 p.m.

    Very very nice.

    I might try...

    Love the abstract "stick men" shapes. the short vertical lines with the symmetrical do-dah patterns, the reflection created triangles and the longer lines (reeds). I would be tempted to use a healing brush to remove the dots and lesser patterns, so only the ones that fit a theme remain. laborious work and at first glance maybe not that obvious, but for a larger print...

    As the patterns are black, I would try a "levels" layer to seperate the tones in the light reflected off the water some, the image is graphic in nature anyway so you could go a lot further here. Been playing myself and you can get a real nice shimmer and sheen here.

    Not sure about the balance, looks too "right heavy" but not sure, would need to live with it a while...

    Nice shot...

    (Hope it's not a sneaky Rorschach test...) 😋

  • Members 2059 posts
    May 12, 2025, 1:30 a.m.

    Seeburg.

    Seeburg.jpg

    Seeburg.jpg

    JPG, 2.0 MB, uploaded by MikeFewster on May 12, 2025.