• Members 732 posts
    Oct. 25, 2025, 9:47 p.m.

    Welcome to the Weekly Black and White Photography Thread

    We’re dedicated to fostering discussions about Black and White photography. This open peer-to-peer forum allows critical feedback on images, leading to discussions on techniques, styles, interpretation, and storytelling. The first few weeks response has been outstanding - keep them coming.

    It’s easy - To participate: post an image or essay with a title, short description, and explanation. All comments must include the image or essay as a quote. Replies may or may not include quotes.

    THREAD GUIDELINES:
    1. This thread is for learning about Black and White photography.
    2. Post one image or photo essay for comments.
    3. Entries can be single images or short photo essays (3 to 10 connected images that tell a story).
    4. Give your entry a clear title and explain why you took it and the story it tells.
    5. Provide constructive feedback on others’ images/essays.
    6. Go beyond simple praise or dismissal.
    7. Explain why you like an image or essay.
    8. Negative feedback is welcome (be polite, honest, and constructive).
    9. Stay on topic and avoid politics or distractions.

    We refine our skill-craft through feedback - Analyzing prints pinned on the virtual wall is our approach, but discussions of styles and techniques are also acceptable. While most images are captured digitally, Black and White film can also discussed. The focus is on image.

    Post a photo or photo essay and get comments and feedback. In return, give honest but constructive opinions of others’ images. A simple “like” is insufficient. There are multiple levels of feedback: composition, technique, emotion and storytelling, etc.

    What caught your eye about an image and why? What draws you in and what distracts you? What changes would you make? Does the photographer tell their story? Does the image communicate their viewpoint or emotion? As W. Eugene Smith said, “A photo is a small voice, at best, but sometimes – just sometimes – one photograph or a group of them can lure our senses into awareness.” Does the image meet Smith’s criteria?

    Explore the image in your head, considering composition, perspective, toning, balance, exposure, and tonality. Consider the story, emotion or opinion the artist is trying to communicate. Provide feedback.

    Downloading and reposting - (please note: clear instructions are required).
It’s often challenging to verbalize useful comments about images. Instead, it’s easier to “show.” Unless the original poster specifically states otherwise, participants are free to download, alter, and repost images in replies to express their analysis and critique. The reposted image may remain permanently or be removed after a short period. Downloaded and altered images shall not be used for other purposes or uploaded elsewhere.

    Encouragement - When I first pinned a print on the cork-board for the professor and class to analyze, I was apprehensive. However, it proved to be an effective way to learn and develop my skills and vision. Well reasoned analysis and comments aid the artist in improving their vision, skill, and style. The goal is to promote and encourage people to enhance their artistic vision and skill in Black and White Photography by providing constructive feedback. General feedback is also welcome. Sharing techniques for capturing or processing images that aid in creating good Black and White images or photo essays is appreciated in replies.

    Why focus on Black and White - As Elliott Erwitt said, “Color is descriptive. Black and White is interpretive.” It’s an abstraction that simplifies photography by focusing on composition, forms, shapes, tonality, textures, and emotions. Ansel Adams famously said, “You don’t take a photograph, you make a photograph.”

    Clyde Butcher talks about the hundreds of photographers who flock to Inspiration Point in Yosemite National Park for the “golden hour.” However, the composition at sunrise is poor. For Black and White, it’s not about the color of the light, but the quality of the light. Ansel Adams arrived midmorning when the light was “right” to produce his iconic images. His iconic book, “Yosemite and the Range of Light,” had a significant impact on conservation and environmental movements in the West. It also attracts thousands of photographers each year to capture the “Range of Light.”

    clydebutcher.com

    Nick Ut’s “Napalm Girl” captured the horrors of the Vietnam War and profoundly impacted the United States. Stripped of distractions, the image exposed the terror in the children’s faces, prompting critical questioning of government actions. W. Eugene Smith’s “Minamata” warned the world. It exposed a corporation poisoning water and killing residents, highlighting the suffering of the Minamata community for profit. William Henry Jackson’s photographs convinced Congress to preserve Yellowstone as the first national park, leading to the creation of the National Park Service and commitment to wild land preservation.

    aboutphotography.blog/blog/the-terror-of-war-nick-uts-napalm-girl-1972
    www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/society-arts-culture/w-eugene-smith-minamata-warning-to-the-world/
    www.pbagalleries.com/first-photographic-images-of-yellowstone/

    Black and White strips away distractions to expose emotions. It tells unique stories in various photographic genres, from landscapes to social documentaries to portraiture. Check out Annie Leibovitz’s Black and White work.

    blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/why-artists-choose-black-and-white-photography/
    fstoppers.com/fashion/why-its-still-important-shoot-black-and-white-48141
    www.designspiration.com/save/1600176374707/

    Another resource is the “Daybooks of Edward Weston,” though dated, still relevant.

    Additional Resources - It is encouraged to discuss additional resources on Black and White photography in posts, whether in your images or commenting on others’ when those resources aid in the goals of the thread.

    Growing Together - The Black and White thread focuses on growth and learning together. Be active, honest, and respectful.

  • Members 732 posts
    Oct. 25, 2025, 9:49 p.m.

    Slumber Party

    Newport_nz86625-20250929-1337-topaz.jpg

    Newport_nz86625-20250929-1337-topaz.jpg

    JPG, 3.3 MB, uploaded by tprevatt on Oct. 25, 2025.

  • Oct. 27, 2025, 7:20 p.m.

    I was on a photowalk on saturday, learning about B&W photography. One thing the instructor asked us to do was lower the EC by 1 stop. Take two pictures - one with -1 EC and one with no EC and notice how much more you are looking at contrast rather than items when it's -1 EC.

    So, what do you think? Does it work for you? I'm still undecided.

    EAH50014-1_(Supersize).jpg

    EAH50015-1_(Supersize).jpg

    EAH50015-1_(Supersize).jpg

    JPG, 3.7 MB, uploaded by AlanSh on Oct. 27, 2025.

    EAH50014-1_(Supersize).jpg

    JPG, 4.1 MB, uploaded by AlanSh on Oct. 27, 2025.

  • Members 2491 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 7:38 p.m.

    Old Keepers House on Upper Peninsula, Michigan, now a museum.

    js-29.jpg

    js-29.jpg

    JPG, 2.2 MB, uploaded by minniev on Oct. 27, 2025.

  • Oct. 27, 2025, 7:42 p.m.

    Very interesting comparison.
    I kinda like -1EC image more, it makes cars to become main subject - normal exposure creates some 'decision' problem between cars and building facade.
    Also the darker image creates strong feeling of late evening light - setting sun last rays light the cars up. If this was intended, then it is very good result :)

  • Members 574 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 8:14 p.m.

    @AlanSh

    First of all, I am not familiar with the Fujifilm X-E5 and how it deploys its dedicated exposure compensation, but it appears to me to be a global setting.
    Personally I would "pump up" the blacks for more "bite" (from 0 to 14 in this example) and leave the whites, aka highlights, alone. Your second image is too "muddy" for me. :-)

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    14.jpg

    JPG, 245.6 KB, uploaded by Greg on Oct. 27, 2025.

  • Members 732 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 8:20 p.m.

    The classic high contrast B&W photography is having a renaissance. Look at that work of masters like W. Eugene Smith, Robert Cappa, Henri Cartier-Bresson. Take a look at magnum photos (magnumphotos.com) at the work of the members doing the 40's, 50's and 60's during the heyday of that style. It is related to the film noir style in movies of the same era, e.g., Casablanca or any other of the Bogart films.

    With black and white film the style was accomplished by underexposure followed by longer than normal development. This style long dominated street photography and was the mainstay of the war correspondences that dominated WWII, Korea and even Vietnam, e.g., Robert Capa, W. Eugene Smith. It can produce a stark, high emotion image when executed correctly.

    It is worth practicing and developing an eye for when to use it.

    As to you image - it works well here. It turns a mundane street scene into an interesting study of forms.

  • Members 732 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 8:21 p.m.

    Nice find and nicely captures with a beautify sky.

  • Oct. 27, 2025, 8:24 p.m.

    That, I think, is what the instructor was trying to say - but you've put it much better. Thank you. That makes more sense.

    It wasn't what was intended, but I see what you mean, and yes, it does work.

    Greg, what s/w is that? I'd like to try to reproduce what you did, but the numbers (0 to 14) don't mean anything to me.

    Alan

  • Oct. 27, 2025, 8:26 p.m.

    I love the clouds. They give the house some 'oomph' (I'm not sure how else to describe it)

    Alan

  • Members 872 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 9:55 p.m.

    Alan,

    Perhaps something a little less than 1 full stop. You went from 1/90th to 1/200th.
    Perhaps something in between, like 1/3 of a stop.

    Steve Thomas

  • Members 574 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 10:12 p.m.

    @AlanSh wrote: Greg, what s/w is that?

    Photoshop CS5 Extended released in 2010

    Adobe Lightroom does not have a direct "levels" adjustment like Photoshop, but you can achieve a similar result in the Basic panel by adjusting the Blacks, Whites, and Midtones (Brightness) sliders, which control the black and white points and the overall brightness of the image, respectively.

    Julieanne Kost will walk you through the process.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tc417ue-DQ&t=149s

    ————

    For more precise control in Lightroom, you can use the Tone Curve panel,

    Open the Tone Curve panel: This panel provides a more detailed way to adjust tones.
    Adjust points: Click and drag the points on the curve to brighten or darken specific tonal ranges.
    Create a "levels" effect: Use the Point Curve to create a similar effect to a levels adjustment by dragging the bottom-left point to set the black point and the top-right point to set the white point, which can also increase the contrast of the image.

    The Tone Curve Panel in Lightroom Classic.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYdAbJ0QVkA&t=1s

    or use the Brightness sliders within the Color Grading panel ↓ for an advanced method that acts similarly to a levels adjustment on the shadows and highlights.

    Thomas Fitzgerald.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDcxAmcRIw&t=123

  • Members 732 posts
    Oct. 27, 2025, 10:43 p.m.

    The Film Noir stye is having a comeback. In fact with digital - it is easier than in the film days as we were limited to ISO 400. With modern digital cameras low light is much easier. The style produces tension and drama in an image. I've heard it described as "break every rule." The first step is high contrast which somewhat went out of style after the 70's.

    In cinema - Hitchcock used this style to great effect.

    andrew-cameron.com/blog/film-noir-photography-6-images-analysed

    Some color photographers have adapted the style. However, I feel it works much better in B&W.

    scotchparlor.com/nicolas-miller/
    www.flaunt.com/blog/daniel-sackheim

  • Oct. 27, 2025, 11 p.m.

    I've got lots of reading and playing to do. Thank you all.

  • Members 1735 posts
    Oct. 29, 2025, 2:11 p.m.

    Autumn time in B&W

    inspired by suggestions from our host ( @tprevatt ) I tried to show the autumn time "colours" in B&W.
    Thanks for the tips!

    Here's two:

    DSC_1815 smaller 2.JPG

    DSC_1714 d B&W smaller.JPG

    I'll also post some more in the Wednesday C&C thread later today

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    JPG, 6.2 MB, uploaded by Fireplace33 on Oct. 29, 2025.

    DSC_1714 d B&W smaller.JPG

    JPG, 4.1 MB, uploaded by Fireplace33 on Oct. 29, 2025.

  • Members 732 posts
    Oct. 29, 2025, 4:33 p.m.

    I like these. I particularly like the second one with the bright tree offset by the background fog/sky.

  • Members 621 posts
    Oct. 29, 2025, 5:31 p.m.

    I prefer the first one. Number 2's tones look lifeless to me. Superb experiment and examples.
    Thanks for sharing,
    barondla

  • Members 621 posts
    Oct. 29, 2025, 5:51 p.m.

    "The classic high contrast B&W photography is having a renaissance. Look at that work of masters like W. Eugene Smith, Robert Cappa, Henri Cartier-Bresson. Take a look at magnum photos (magnumphotos.com) at the work of the members doing the 40's, 50's and 60's during the heyday of that style. It is related to the film noir style in movies of the same era, e.g., Casablanca or any other of the Bogart films.

    With black and white film the style was accomplished by underexposure followed by longer than normal development. This style long dominated street photography and was the mainstay of the war correspondences that dominated WWII, Korea and even Vietnam, e.g., Robert Capa, W. Eugene Smith. It can produce a stark, high emotion image when executed correctly.

    It is worth practicing and developing an eye for when to use it."

    [/quote]

    While it is a style, IMHO doubt it was originally developed for artistic reasons. In the 40's and 50's Kodak Tri-X was one of the fastest, most sensitive films. A fairly slow film to shoot photojournalism with - especially low light or night scenes. Pushing film was a way to bring back useable images. Art photographers borrowed the technique later. Nothing wrong with this. It can be a fine tool.
    Thanks for sharing,
    barondla