• Members 420 posts
    March 1, 2025, 7:57 p.m.

    Welcome to the Black and White Photography thread #5 for (2 March 2025).
    We’re dedicated to fostering discussions about Black and White photography. This open peer-to-peer forum allows critical feedback on images, leading to discussions on techniques, styles, interpretation, and storytelling. The first few weeks response has been outstanding - keep them coming.

    It’s easy - To participate: post an image or essay with a title, short description, and explanation. All comments must include the image or essay as a quote. Replies may or may not include quotes.

    THREAD GUIDELINES:
    1. This thread is for learning about Black and White photography.
    2. Post one image or photo essay for comments.
    3. Entries can be single images or short photo essays (3 to 10 connected images that tell a story).
    4. Give your entry a clear title and explain why you took it and the story it tells.
    5. Provide constructive feedback on others’ images/essays.
    6. Go beyond simple praise or dismissal.
    7. Explain why you like an image or essay.
    8. Negative feedback is welcome (be polite, honest, and constructive).
    9. Stay on topic and avoid politics or distractions.

    We refine our skill-craft through feedback - Analyzing prints pinned on the virtual wall is our approach, but discussions of styles and techniques are also acceptable. While most images are captured digitally, Black and White film can also discussed. The focus is on image.

    Post a photo or photo essay and get comments and feedback. In return, give honest but constructive opinions of others’ images. A simple “like” is insufficient. There are multiple levels of feedback: composition, technique, emotion and storytelling, etc.
    What caught your eye about an image and why? What draws you in and what distracts you? What changes would you make? Does the photographer tell their story? Does the image communicate their viewpoint or emotion? As W. Eugene Smith said, “A photo is a small voice, at best, but sometimes – just sometimes – one photograph or a group of them can lure our senses into awareness.” Does the image meet Smith’s criteria?

    Explore the image in your head, considering composition, perspective, toning, balance, exposure, and tonality. Consider the story, emotion or opinion the artist is trying to communicate. Provide feedback.

    Downloading and reposting - (please note: clear instructions are required).
It’s often challenging to verbalize useful comments about images. Instead, it’s easier to “show.” Unless the original poster specifically states otherwise, participants are free to download, alter, and repost images in replies to express their analysis and critique. The reposted image may remain permanently or be removed after a short period. Downloaded and altered images shall not be used for other purposes or uploaded elsewhere.

    Encouragement - When I first pinned a print on the cork-board for the professor and class to analyze, I was apprehensive. However, it proved to be an effective way to learn and develop my skills and vision. Well reasoned analysis and comments aid the artist in improving their vision, skill, and style. The goal is to promote and encourage people to enhance their artistic vision and skill in Black and White Photography by providing constructive feedback. General feedback is also welcome. Sharing techniques for capturing or processing images that aid in creating good Black and White images or photo essays is appreciated in replies.

    Why focus on Black and White - As Elliott Erwitt said, “Color is descriptive. Black and White is interpretive.” It’s an abstraction that simplifies photography by focusing on composition, forms, shapes, tonality, textures, and emotions. Ansel Adams famously said, “You don’t take a photograph, you make a photograph.”

    Clyde Butcher talks about the hundreds of photographers who flock to Inspiration Point in Yosemite National Park for the “golden hour.” However, the composition at sunrise is poor. For Black and White, it’s not about the color of the light, but the quality of the light. Ansel Adams arrived midmorning when the light was “right” to produce his iconic images. His iconic book, “Yosemite and the Range of Light,” had a significant impact on conservation and environmental movements in the West. It also attracts thousands of photographers each year to capture the “Range of Light.”

    clydebutcher.com

    Nick Ut’s “Napalm Girl” captured the horrors of the Vietnam War and profoundly impacted the United States. Stripped of distractions, the image exposed the terror in the children’s faces, prompting critical questioning of government actions. W. Eugene Smith’s “Minamata” warned the world. It exposed a corporation poisoning water and killing residents, highlighting the suffering of the Minamata community for profit. William Henry Jackson’s photographs convinced Congress to preserve Yellowstone as the first national park, leading to the creation of the National Park Service and commitment to wild land preservation.

    aboutphotography.blog/blog/the-terror-of-war-nick-uts-napalm-girl-1972
    www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/society-arts-culture/w-eugene-smith-minamata-warning-to-the-world/
    www.pbagalleries.com/first-photographic-images-of-yellowstone/

    Black and White strips away distractions to expose emotions. It tells unique stories in various photographic genres, from landscapes to social documentaries to portraiture. Check out Annie Leibovitz’s Black and White work.

    blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/why-artists-choose-black-and-white-photography/
    fstoppers.com/fashion/why-its-still-important-shoot-black-and-white-48141
    www.designspiration.com/save/1600176374707/

    Another resource is the “Daybooks of Edward Weston,” though dated, still relevant.

    Additional Resources - It is encouraged to discuss additional resources on Black and White photography in posts, whether in your images or commenting on others’ when those resources aid in the goals of the thread.

    Growing Together - The Black and White thread focuses on growth and learning together. Be active, honest, and respectful.

  • Members 420 posts
    March 1, 2025, 8 p.m.

    Sometimes a Good Cigar is Just a Good Cigar

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    JPG, 3.0 MB, uploaded by tprevatt on March 1, 2025.

  • Members 1166 posts
    March 1, 2025, 8:21 p.m.

    A grimy wheel

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    Found this old image, by chance, while looking through my archives.
    The cog wheel operates a sluice gate at a small local hydroelectric power station.
    It was a digital image processed for more contrast, to be quite honest, I can't remember exactly what software I used for it

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    JPG, 5.9 MB, uploaded by Fireplace33 on March 1, 2025.

  • March 1, 2025, 8:37 p.m.

    Ilmjärve orthodox church, southern Estonia

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    Sigma PhotoPro, fill light, exposure correction, B&W conversion.
    This shot was badly underexposed (and old'n'good Sigma underexposed images can't be recoverd in post so easily, at least not in color), thereby this shot was converted into B&W. As it sometimes happens, removing color made image better - and even using fill light (SPP term for lifting shadows and creating some HDR-ish effect, often with halos) did not ruin this image :)

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    JPG, 3.3 MB, uploaded by ArvoJ on March 1, 2025.

  • Members 61 posts
    March 1, 2025, 10:05 p.m.

    Farmhouse in Devon

    A dog walking photo, or photo taken whilst whilst walking a dog...trying the Kenna style with editing tips from Bruce Percy (both approaches still a work in progress). Taken on a frosty morning yesterday in Devon near where I live. Camera was set to 1x1 crop & B&W so that I could 'see' the composition, but this was edited from the raw, converted to B&W in DXO using a Kodak Tri-X 400 film sim, local adjustments to darken the sky and raise the frost and darken the shadow and finally a bit of split toning with warm (gold) highlights and cool (selenium) lowlights.

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    JPG, 5.2 MB, uploaded by AndyG on March 1, 2025.

  • Members 1329 posts
    March 2, 2025, 4:22 a.m.

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    JPG, 6.8 MB, uploaded by Bryan on March 2, 2025.

  • Members 1781 posts
    March 2, 2025, 5:05 a.m.

    Oodnadatta Track. Central Australia.

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    JPG, 1.7 MB, uploaded by MikeFewster on March 2, 2025.

  • Members 1831 posts
    March 2, 2025, 2:22 p.m.

    nol,a.jpgCupid on the streets of New Orleans

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    JPG, 2.5 MB, uploaded by minniev on March 2, 2025.

  • Members 420 posts
    March 2, 2025, 4:18 p.m.

    Interesting light leads to interesting tonality. The toning also adds interest.

  • Members 420 posts
    March 2, 2025, 4:21 p.m.

    Interesting composition and texture on this image. There appears to be some grease on the gear so I assume it is or was still in operation.

  • Members 420 posts
    March 2, 2025, 4:26 p.m.

    Looks like a vehicle we had on the farm when I was a kid. It still ran, but you had to watch getting in and out so you didn't fall through the holes in the floor. In the state of Kentucky at the time, just pain "Farm Truck" on the side and you did not have to pass any of the safety requirements. Of course, ours had the steering wheel on the "correct" side. 😉 Interesting composition.

  • Members 420 posts
    March 2, 2025, 9:38 p.m.

    Interesting Bryan - really interesting. Makes one think - that's a good thing.

  • Members 1781 posts
    March 3, 2025, 7:33 a.m.

    A clever title that gets the mood of the image. A relaxed, every day moment. Nothing dramatic, low key satisfying. A three way meeting with sufficient detail from each of the faces. Enough of the surroundings to show it's a convivial location.
    Tricky lighting to balance. A bit brighter on the closer figure but it would need to be carefully applied. Overall brightening would ruin the bar atmosphere, especially on the rear wall.

  • Members 1781 posts
    March 3, 2025, 7:39 a.m.

    Cogs, gears, levers get me every time. Machinery from an era where I could follow what was going on and be awed at the skills.
    An angle and lighting that makes the most of the teeth and the surfaces.

  • Members 1781 posts
    March 3, 2025, 7:47 a.m.

    The differing textures between metal and brick plus the curves of one shape and the straight lines of the other - there are possibilities here. Can I have a go at cropping this shot differently? I'd like to try to bring these qualities out more by simplifying the composition.

  • March 3, 2025, 8:03 a.m.

    Of course :)

  • Members 1781 posts
    March 3, 2025, 8:16 a.m.

    I know I'm going to be saying this again. It wasn't until I looked at the shot large that it got my interest. The areas of deepest black are ultra rich and I think it is your split toning at work.
    The toning draws attention to the razor edged tree skyline to the area and the horizontal lines in the shot down to just below the barbed wire fence. However I feel the foreground is conflicting with the mid and background. There's too much foreground where the white of the frost lacks detail and it isn't helped by being out of focus in this area.
    Looking at the exif, I note you are using a medium format camera. I think you could have closed the f stop down at least two stops, slowed the shutter speed accordingly and focused on a point somewhat closer to the camera. Of course, you might see it very differently/

  • Members 61 posts
    March 3, 2025, 9:06 a.m.

    Thanks for the feedback, and yes I agree with the foreground thoughts. Unfortunately trying to keep an active (not my) dog out of the way while trying to get some images is a good learning experience - take a tripod and not a dog!

    Slight re-crop
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    JPG, 5.6 MB, uploaded by AndyG on March 3, 2025.