• tprevattpanorama_fish_eye
    442 posts
    4 days ago

    Welcome to the Weekly Black and White Photography Thread # 8

    We’re dedicated to fostering discussions about Black and White photography. This open peer-to-peer forum allows critical feedback on images, leading to discussions on techniques, styles, interpretation, and storytelling. The first few weeks response has been outstanding - keep them coming.

    It’s easy - To participate: post an image or essay with a title, short description, and explanation. All comments must include the image or essay as a quote. Replies may or may not include quotes.

    THREAD GUIDELINES:
    1. This thread is for learning about Black and White photography.
    2. Post one image or photo essay for comments.
    3. Entries can be single images or short photo essays (3 to 10 connected images that tell a story).
    4. Give your entry a clear title and explain why you took it and the story it tells.
    5. Provide constructive feedback on others’ images/essays.
    6. Go beyond simple praise or dismissal.
    7. Explain why you like an image or essay.
    8. Negative feedback is welcome (be polite, honest, and constructive).
    9. Stay on topic and avoid politics or distractions.

    We refine our skill-craft through feedback - Analyzing prints pinned on the virtual wall is our approach, but discussions of styles and techniques are also acceptable. While most images are captured digitally, Black and White film can also discussed. The focus is on image.

    Post a photo or photo essay and get comments and feedback. In return, give honest but constructive opinions of others’ images. A simple “like” is insufficient. There are multiple levels of feedback: composition, technique, emotion and storytelling, etc.
    What caught your eye about an image and why? What draws you in and what distracts you? What changes would you make? Does the photographer tell their story? Does the image communicate their viewpoint or emotion? As W. Eugene Smith said, “A photo is a small voice, at best, but sometimes – just sometimes – one photograph or a group of them can lure our senses into awareness.” Does the image meet Smith’s criteria?

    Explore the image in your head, considering composition, perspective, toning, balance, exposure, and tonality. Consider the story, emotion or opinion the artist is trying to communicate. Provide feedback.

    Downloading and reposting - (please note: clear instructions are required).
It’s often challenging to verbalize useful comments about images. Instead, it’s easier to “show.” Unless the original poster specifically states otherwise, participants are free to download, alter, and repost images in replies to express their analysis and critique. The reposted image may remain permanently or be removed after a short period. Downloaded and altered images shall not be used for other purposes or uploaded elsewhere.

    Encouragement - When I first pinned a print on the cork-board for the professor and class to analyze, I was apprehensive. However, it proved to be an effective way to learn and develop my skills and vision. Well reasoned analysis and comments aid the artist in improving their vision, skill, and style. The goal is to promote and encourage people to enhance their artistic vision and skill in Black and White Photography by providing constructive feedback. General feedback is also welcome. Sharing techniques for capturing or processing images that aid in creating good Black and White images or photo essays is appreciated in replies.

    Why focus on Black and White - As Elliott Erwitt said, “Color is descriptive. Black and White is interpretive.” It’s an abstraction that simplifies photography by focusing on composition, forms, shapes, tonality, textures, and emotions. Ansel Adams famously said, “You don’t take a photograph, you make a photograph.”

    Clyde Butcher talks about the hundreds of photographers who flock to Inspiration Point in Yosemite National Park for the “golden hour.” However, the composition at sunrise is poor. For Black and White, it’s not about the color of the light, but the quality of the light. Ansel Adams arrived midmorning when the light was “right” to produce his iconic images. His iconic book, “Yosemite and the Range of Light,” had a significant impact on conservation and environmental movements in the West. It also attracts thousands of photographers each year to capture the “Range of Light.”

    clydebutcher.com

    Nick Ut’s “Napalm Girl” captured the horrors of the Vietnam War and profoundly impacted the United States. Stripped of distractions, the image exposed the terror in the children’s faces, prompting critical questioning of government actions. W. Eugene Smith’s “Minamata” warned the world. It exposed a corporation poisoning water and killing residents, highlighting the suffering of the Minamata community for profit. William Henry Jackson’s photographs convinced Congress to preserve Yellowstone as the first national park, leading to the creation of the National Park Service and commitment to wild land preservation.

    aboutphotography.blog/blog/the-terror-of-war-nick-uts-napalm-girl-1972
    www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/society-arts-culture/w-eugene-smith-minamata-warning-to-the-world/
    www.pbagalleries.com/first-photographic-images-of-yellowstone/

    Black and White strips away distractions to expose emotions. It tells unique stories in various photographic genres, from landscapes to social documentaries to portraiture. Check out Annie Leibovitz’s Black and White work.

    blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/why-artists-choose-black-and-white-photography/
    fstoppers.com/fashion/why-its-still-important-shoot-black-and-white-48141
    www.designspiration.com/save/1600176374707/

    Another resource is the “Daybooks of Edward Weston,” though dated, still relevant.

    Additional Resources - It is encouraged to discuss additional resources on Black and White photography in posts, whether in your images or commenting on others’ when those resources aid in the goals of the thread.

    Growing Together - The Black and White thread focuses on growth and learning together. Be active, honest, and respectful.

  • tprevattpanorama_fish_eye
    442 posts
    4 days ago

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    Paux de Duex

    I don't normally do birds, but my wife loves do to birds. So I put my 100-400 on my Z8 and accompany my wife for an outing on a reason short vacation. I basically there to carry and move her stuff. In this pine tree was an Osprey nest I sit down on a bench put my camera on my monopod and watched having a nice conversation with two bird watchers that dropped by.

    Then things hot heated up.

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    JPG, 3.3 MB, uploaded by tprevatt 4 days ago.

  • Kumsalpanorama_fish_eye
    434 posts
    4 days ago

    Curious

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    JPG, 2.3 MB, uploaded by Kumsal 4 days ago.

  • tprevattpanorama_fish_eye
    442 posts
    4 days ago

    Yes he/she is. Nice lighting and well captured in the tonality.

  • minnievpanorama_fish_eye
    1880 posts
    4 days ago

    Magnolias are fun in black and white.

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    JPG, 1.8 MB, uploaded by minniev 4 days ago.

  • PeteSpanorama_fish_eye
    662 posts
    3 days ago

    Musée des Confluences

    This was taken on the roof terrace of the Musée des Confluences in Lyon, France. The building is as interesting as its contents and is a wonderful playground for photographers.

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    JPG, 1.3 MB, uploaded by PeteS 3 days ago.

  • PeteSpanorama_fish_eye
    662 posts
    3 days ago

    Yes they are fun when they are captured as tenderly as you have, with well-controlled highlights and a good range of tones. It exudes a gentle beauty.

  • PeteSpanorama_fish_eye
    662 posts
    3 days ago

    I like everything about this one.
    The composition, with the head nicely balanced by the body and not too far to the left.
    The "head-dress" catches the light beautifully, but is not over-exposed.
    The bird is nice and sharp and the background nicely blurred and unobtrusive.
    The tones are well captured and the brighter tones of the bird make it stand out against the darker background.

  • PeteSpanorama_fish_eye
    662 posts
    3 days ago

    You have caught a good moment! the background is busy, but it doesn't matter. It frames the main subject, and for a quick moment, the viewer needs to analyse the shapes and find the bird - just like in the wild.

  • stevet1panorama_fish_eye
    778 posts
    3 days ago

    Pete,

    What a wonderful place to take photos!

    You could spend all day up there looking at different angles and positions and shadows.

    You done good.

    Steve Thomas

  • MikeFewsterpanorama_fish_eye
    1878 posts
    3 days ago

    Exactly as Pete has said. A bit more about the top crop. Very few photographers would have done this. It works because it is balanced by the crop on the right. If the right had shown the full body or if the full head had been shown with the body cropped, the who;e shot would have looked wrong.
    Well done.

  • MikeFewsterpanorama_fish_eye
    1878 posts
    3 days ago

    Pier

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    Pier.jpg

    JPG, 1.7 MB, uploaded by MikeFewster 3 days ago.

  • tprevattpanorama_fish_eye
    442 posts
    3 days ago

    Interesting subject matter caught in perfect light. Form, texture, contrast and nice tonality - it has it all.

  • tprevattpanorama_fish_eye
    442 posts
    3 days ago

    Mike, great composition as the pilings converge to the “point at infinity.”

  • MikeFewsterpanorama_fish_eye
    1878 posts
    2 days ago

    You caught a good moment here. I feel this would be better cropped in tighter around the bird and the nest. The upraised wings with the framing from the pine needles, then the line down through the head and legs, second bird and into the nest details are the strength of the shot. Perhaps a portrait mode cropped in tighter?
    It's obviously daylight. You have plenty of contrast to deal with a brighter sky. I assume this is a B&W conversion from a colour digital? If it is, maybe try dialing back the blue a little.
    It's a moment worth playing with.

  • MikeFewsterpanorama_fish_eye
    1878 posts
    2 days ago

    Exquisitely delicate. It's the gradation in tones that make shots like this such a pleasure to view. Same for the positioning and hints of line and detail in the lower leaves.
    Now I'm going to be unfairly picky. This level of pickiness is only excusable because the rest of the shot is so good.
    The underside of the lowest petals, especially the centre one. The shadowed surface is too even and this loses the 3d curvature of the petal. It becomes a flat shape. With some very delicate use of the burn and dodge tools I think a bit more variation could be added to the underside of the petals.
    It would need a steadier hand than I have.

  • MikeFewsterpanorama_fish_eye
    1878 posts
    2 days ago

    Roel has posted colour shots of the same place.
    Yes, designed by a photographer as a gift for fellow photographers.
    Planes, angles, lines, contrasts. A treasure trove.
    I like the saw edge, top left and the curves of the railing shadows as they fight for attention against the straight lines.

  • minnievpanorama_fish_eye
    1880 posts
    2 days ago

    Quite nice. I don't mind that you didn't include the top of her head or her lower body. That's a style choice often made with modern human portraits too. It forces the eyes to take more precedence.