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What a freakin' Nightmare !!

xpatUSA
Dec. 15, 2025
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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 2:05 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 2:05 p.m.
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    [rant]

    Having stuck stubbornly to Windows 7 for years, the shit has finally hit the fan, grump.

    A week or two ago, I went to check my Chase bank account on-line, as I have done for decades. Up pops a message saying my Browser is out date, so I downloaded the "latest" (FireFox 115 because FireFox no longer supports Win 7) only to find that Chase no longer supports Windows 7, now wants Windows 10+. After trying to upgrade my oldish Dell to Win 10, I just had to give up ... too complicated for this old man. Thanks, Microsoft ... may Gates live in hell.

    So I saved my 'User Ted' files onto my Seagate USB external drive and bought a refurbished Win [11] Dell and downloaded FireFox 146.

    Jeez ...

    I opened FireFox - none of my profile stuff is there - no passwords, bookmarks, cookies, na-ni-na, as one might expect.

    Even worse, my pictures folder on the Seagate is empty. Super-ouch.

    So now I'll have to reconnect my old Dell and save the entire C drive to the Seagate if it will fit.

    And Windows [11] is so different than 7 that it really, really sucks !!!

    [/rant]

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    ArvoJ
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 2:13 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 2:13 p.m.
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    Try this: www.palemoon.org/ (On your Win7 computer, I mean :) )
    There are more Firefox clones to support WIndows 7, Pale Moon is the only what I've ever tried.

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    Bryan
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 2:38 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 2:38 p.m.
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    Your Firefox profile contains all your passwords and stuff.

    The profile should be in this folder:

    C:\Users\Ted\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

    At some point in the Firefox install you may be able to tell it which profile to use. Otherwise there is a config setting that you can edit after install

    Google search should find you a link to defining a profile to use and the steps needed - also the correct location of your old one if I am incorrect above

    I didn't realise winders had gone to version 14. I am still living with the constant nag to upgrade from 10 to 11

    Yes ms have a lot to answer for.

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    ArvoJ
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 2:44 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 2:44 p.m.
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    On the internetz they recommend to use some User agent switcher extension to present your browser as newer browser on newer OS - they likely check just user agent there, not actual functionality.
    Read here too: www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/chase-bank-no-longer-supports-w7-or-gc109/

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    AlanSh
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 2:55 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 2:55 p.m.
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    I've used ExplorerPatcher and OpenShell to make my Windows 11 machine look just like WIndows 7.

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    PNG, 84.7 KB, uploaded by AlanSh on Dec. 15, 2025.

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    PNG, 25.6 KB, uploaded by AlanSh on Dec. 15, 2025.

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 4:12 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 4:12 p.m.
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    @Bryan has written:

    Your Firefox profile contains all your passwords and stuff.

    The profile should be in this folder:

    C:\Users\Ted\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profile folder name>

    Cool just found it on the Seagate will try and find said path in Windows 14

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 9:22 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 9:22 p.m.
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    @Bryan has written:

    \I didn't realise winders had gone to version 14. I am still living with the constant nag to upgrade from 10 to 11

    Turns out that the ebay seller said it was version 14. I just check 'winver' and it's 11 .... duh ...

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    Sagittarius
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    Dec. 15, 2025, 11:12 p.m. Dec. 15, 2025, 11:12 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:
    @Bryan has written:

    \I didn't realise winders had gone to version 14. I am still living with the constant nag to upgrade from 10 to 11

    Turns out that the ebay seller said it was version 14. I just check 'winver' and it's 11 .... duh ...

    I would never ever bought it from ebay.

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    wklee
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    Dec. 16, 2025, 1:20 a.m. Dec. 16, 2025, 1:20 a.m.
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    There is also WaterFox if you would like to try that out.

    www.waterfox.com/

    Firefox also has their Extended Release versions. 115 is their latest version which I haven’t kept up to date with the news.

    www.firefox.com/en-US/browsers/enterprise/

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    RonP
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    Dec. 16, 2025, 4:18 a.m. Dec. 16, 2025, 4:18 a.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    I just check 'winver' and it's 11 .... duh ...

    FWIW
    Try the WIN11 "as is" for a while before using 3rd party software to get it to look like Old Windows.
    After a couple of weeks, moving stuff around and tailoring your preferences, you may find it OK to use.
    Plenty of advice on line.
    Let's face it, none of us spends much time in the OS.
    We're much more likely to be in Firefox or our Photo software.
    Worked for me, which came as a surprise.

    Ron

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. Dec. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m.
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    Thanks all for the advice so far. Got the GIMP installed and some images transferred and now getting used to Win 11.

    Ted Cousins

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 19, 2025, 9:27 p.m. Dec. 19, 2025, 9:27 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    Thanks all for the advice so far. Got the GIMP installed and some images transferred and now getting used to Win 11.

    Ted Cousins

    After about a week of struggling with Windows 11 and now finding that it won't talk to my printer, I've reverted to my "old" win 7 Dell.

    Not really looking for advice, just grumping ...

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    RonP
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    Dec. 19, 2025, 11:02 p.m. Dec. 19, 2025, 11:02 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    Not really looking for advice, just grumping ...

    Not really advice, but some have had success just using the Win10 drivers for Win11 probs;
    not sure they did fresh installs or "updated" the driver (?)

    Ron

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 1:29 a.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 1:29 a.m.
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    @RonP has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    Not really looking for advice, just grumping ...

    Not really advice, but some have had success just using the Win10 drivers for Win11 probs;
    not sure they did fresh installs or "updated" the driver (?)

    A couple hours ago I successfully used my printer without doing anything to my Win 7 Dell. Printer is and was set to Wifi. Next time I go back to the Win 11 Dell I'll load the CD that came with the printer. Maybe that will provide whatever is missing that talks thru WiFi ...

    Thanks for remaining interested!

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    RonP
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 3:18 a.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 3:18 a.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    Maybe that will provide whatever is missing that talks thru WiFi ...

    I have been caught in the past by two networks (2+5 here), it's worth a squiz.
    The CD is probably written with stone chisel, might be easier to download direct for something reasonably up to date.

    Ron

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    ArvoJ
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 1:24 p.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 1:24 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    it won't talk to my printer

    What exact printer you've got, if not secret?

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 2:16 p.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 2:16 p.m.
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    @ArvoJ has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    it won't talk to my printer

    What exact printer you've got, if not secret?

    Canon PIXMA MG8120.

    The printer is currently working as before with my Win 7 Dell. When I next install the horrible Win 11 Dell and receive a DVD/CD drive, I plan to load the printer CD and if that doesn't connect the printer then I'll follow the complicated instructions for the printer WiFi setup and if that doesn't work I'll reconnect the USB cable.

    All because stupid Chase Bank no longer supports Windows 7 on-line.

    One good thing currently is that your excellent CSS re: indented quote names is alive and well on my Win 7 FireFox, thanks again ...

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 2:18 p.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 2:18 p.m.
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    @Sagittarius has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:
    @Bryan has written:

    \I didn't realise winders had gone to version 14. I am still living with the constant nag to upgrade from 10 to 11

    Turns out that the ebay seller said it was version 14. I just check 'winver' and it's 11 .... duh ...

    I would never ever [have] bought it from ebay.

    Thank you for your helpful response.

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    ArvoJ
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 3:30 p.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 3:30 p.m.
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    @xpatUSA has written:

    Canon PIXMA MG8120

    From random Canon forum (community.usa.canon.com/t5/Printer-Software-Networking/Pixma-MG8120-Drivers-unavailable-for-Windows-11/td-p/504461):

    I too have a Pixma MG8120 and have just gotten a new computer with Windows 11. Just to see what would happen, I installed the Windows 10 drivers, and to my delight they seem to be working fine. Hopefully they will for you too.
    To get the older drivers, go to support for the MG8120 and when you're prompted for your version of Windows, choose 10 instead of 11. I installed MG8100 series MP Driver Ver. 1.05. There is also an XPS driver, which I did not install.

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    xpatUSA
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    Dec. 20, 2025, 5:47 p.m. Dec. 20, 2025, 5:47 p.m.
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    @ArvoJ has written:
    @xpatUSA has written:

    Canon PIXMA MG8120

    From random Canon forum (community.usa.canon.com/t5/Printer-Software-Networking/Pixma-MG8120-Drivers-unavailable-for-Windows-11/td-p/504461):

    I too have a Pixma MG8120 and have just gotten a new computer with Windows 11. Just to see what would happen, I installed the Windows 10 drivers, and to my delight they seem to be working fine. Hopefully they will for you too.
    To get the older drivers, go to support for the MG8120 and when you're prompted for your version of Windows, choose 10 instead of 11. I installed MG8100 series MP Driver Ver. 1.05. There is also an XPS driver, which I did not install.

    Helps a lot, Arvo, thanks. I did go to the Canon support but did not understand their list of drivers for the MG8100 series, so I did nothing. Your quote should help if I need to go back there, I imagine.

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