I agree, I can easily reduce unwanted noise with any number of noise reducing post processing apps (Topaz Photo AI is a marvel), but motion blur is the major killer, normally introduced by too slow a shutter speed. So, I punch up the ISO to get the shutter speed up and go from there.
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I'm not sure that talking about visual things such as composition is useful. Showing and looking at example images is better.
This is by Shibata_Zeshin.
[/quote]Wonderful artwork. It could generate a fascinating conversation about composition as a forum thread.
I agree that conversation about composition is seldom meaningful without viewing an image and relating the conversation to it. But viewing images without a conversation, while fun and instructive, doesn't need a forum, and doesn't get to benefit from others' ideas. It's a solo endeavor.
One of the most interesting forum activities I ever moderated was a thing called Critique The Masters. Every week I posted an image of an artwork - a photograph, a painting, a sculpture, whatever - and links to more information about the artwork and artist for those who wanted to know more. Members gave their own critique. Some of them posted an image of their own that they thought had some kinship to it or illustrated some principle in its design. There was a lot of lively back and forth discussion that we all learned from. I am convinced that shared discussion about images is one of the most effective ways to grow in appreciating and creating art.
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The question I ask myself ... What is it I want out of a photography forum and do I really need one? I don't know the answer. I suppose I have to look back at the 18 yrs. I have spent on DPR in a number of collapsed forums to determine if the things that drew me there will be here. So far I don't see it but it's early. I pretty much spent time in the forums built upon the brand and type gear I possessed,where I did glean tidbits of very useful info.Don't really have an interest in gear I don't own. I also find it fun and useful to view pics that are impressive to me--posted by others ,just to check out the exif info to try to figure out how the hell he got that sky looking like that. Discussions of ultra technical photo science minutiae have no value for me and the times I accidentally clicked on those topics here forced me to pay attention to what I clicked so I don't do it again. It's a bit like choosing a neighborhood bar-( pub fer you ferriners.) Some places are comfortable and some not so much.The people running the show here will ultimately decide what kind of bar this will be along with the clientele and the bouncers.
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In my short time lurking, this forum seems like a nice adjunct to DPR. The reviews, technical info, and photography-related news seems to be continuing nicely over there. But, their forums have always been kind of a mess, both in content and design. While this forum could still use some aesthetic improvement in use of color and home page navigation, the actual individual forums are easier to follow than DPR's, and the content is a little easier to swallow, as well.
I hope you continue the site, and look forward to your incremental improvements in content, features, and appearance.
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In my case I usually look for background info on various optical devices, occasionally also seeking data for veteran cameras (in his regard I can particulartly recommend "collection-apparails.fr".)
Browsing this forum is easier than the original, since going to the end of threads with one keypress does not bog you down in numerous irrelevant klickbaits or advertisements.
A slight minus is the continuation of the quotation system. Long repetitions may be Ok for those who do not read and remember, but clutter the view and eats datatransfer capacity when on exceedingly slow connections. I expect that only a minority of users here have Alzheimers or an excessive short term attention span. otherwise this site is absolutely satisfactory.
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Yes, one of the suggestions we are looking at is removing the 'quote' button and only having the 'select and quote' option. That would limit it quote well, in my opinion.
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Alan wrote: That would limit it quote well, in my opinion.
It’s not rocket science.
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I'm sure people that photograph different subjects believe it too.
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The problem presently with this forum SW is that without a quote there is no indication what is the post being replied to. So people that just hit the 'reply' button get an isolated post, which is clearly replying to something, but the reader doesn't have any way of finding out what. The next SW release will insert those links as the first part of threaded view (you can't do threaded view without knowing the post being replied to), which will give the post 'reply' button a different function from the thread 'reply' button.
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We can't really do that until the post 'reply' button links to the post being replied to. So it needs the first part of the threaded view changes, which will be in the next release.
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I offered my branding services to Bob both through DPR and here too, never got a reply back, so the offer expired.
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I'm sorry, must have missed that somehow. Message me again and we can put you into the team working on all this.
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Three billion humans was a long time ago! Just Africa, India, and China would chalk that up on their own!
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Sorry if this is redundant. On DPR there is the “threaded” view option I was accustomed to which gives just a list of posts, no text unless you click a specific post, and indentations to designate responses to that specific post. More or less an outline. If desired, one may see the entire text of all posts in order of posting by switching to the other “flat” view option. As long as posters use it as intended, perhaps quoting a selected portion of text to further clarify, the threaded view makes it very easy to see the context of a specific response.
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Yes, this is something that has been mentioned from the start and we (actually I) are working on a threaded view. It's not easy because it's fundamentally at odds with the way that this forum software works, and has some very negative effects that occurred on DPReview. So, for instance, if a most was deleted, all replies to it, and the replies to those replies, and so on would get deleted too. Very often most of those posts would not have much relation to the post that was deleted - so people would find their thought-out and carefully crafted posts disappearing because someone had used a rude word further up the thread that they never saw. It also has severe performance issues. The whole of DPReview is based on a threaded model, which I suspect is why it got sol slow as Amazon reduced its server resources. I suspect that being threaded based with the activity it had, it needed lots of server resource to be acceptable in performance.
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What's up Doc. lol
At the moment threaded view is not possible... it's in the pipeline for the next incarnation of the forum as you and fifty million people have asked for it.
I turned 20 years at dpreview back in April, and I have never used threaded view - - - fast reader and digester of BSmore lol
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I can also read quickly, but still have no desire to waste time on the BS and endless image inclusive strings of quotes. I tried the threaded view about ten years back, and never returned to the flat view. BobN2 remark about deletions answers a question as to why an innocuous post would suddenly disappear; apparently if it occurs downstream from a banned post it goes as well. Forum equivalent to GFCI/AFCI?
