I should really go out and shoot some actual photos. but im looking after my 86yo mother and havnt a lot of time, but these threads are filling in some time while she sleeps. again lots of fun and solid debates.
i love my jpeg camera setups. so i can use this program rather than ACR and take the tiff files straight into Photoshop with my settings applied , is that correct ?
@IliahBorg has written: @DonaldB has written:i have no idea how to extract embedded files
i love my jpeg camera setups. so i can use this program rather than ACR and take the tiff files straight into Photoshop with my settings applied , is that correct ?
Sony are embedding JPEG previews into ARWs, for your camera they are 7008x4672 in FF mode, about 3 MB each. You can extract them and open in Photoshop.
@DonaldB has written: @IliahBorg has written: @DonaldB has written:i have no idea how to extract embedded files
i love my jpeg camera setups. so i can use this program rather than ACR and take the tiff files straight into Photoshop with my settings applied , is that correct ?
Sony are embedding JPEG previews into ARWs, for your camera they are 7008x4672 in FF mode, about 3 MB each. You can extract them and open in Photoshop.
so they are not the same as 16 bit files from ACR to Photoshop .
edit. mind you the detail from your program is pretty darn good for 3meg cant really tell the difference between the 20meg out of camera.
@DonaldB has written:FRV says 0.3 of a stop
mine shows clipping at 0.67 and no clipping at 0.33
@DonaldB has written: @TonyBeach has written:For me the "mistake" is shooting JPEG. If the OOC JPEG is sufficient for your purposes, good for you, but that doesn't mean it is for everyone.
walking backwards are we.
Is that a question? If so, and your persistent failure to use proper punctuation makes it a legitimate question here, then the answer is no. I'm holding you accountable for what you are writing in this thread, not some thread in a distant past. What's more, I'm bringing the discussion back to the original topic while you are trying to derail it with your silly argument over why we shouldn't need a Raw histogram because we don't really even need Raw files to begin with. You clearly have a tactic in your exchanges with me in this thread to divert attention away from your unsupportable positions, that being to ignore or otherwise not directly respond to replies that apparently embarrass you (e.g., the simple conversion I did of your parrot photo that I think showed clearly that the OOC JPEG was far from optimal, my comments about your curious choices for said parrot photo, and your failure here to address the question of ETTR as it relates to OOC JPEGs).
trust me i doubt very much your skill would even go close to embarrassing me.
@TonyBeach has written: @DonaldB has written: @TonyBeach has written:For me the "mistake" is shooting JPEG. If the OOC JPEG is sufficient for your purposes, good for you, but that doesn't mean it is for everyone.
walking backwards are we.
Is that a question? If so, and your persistent failure to use proper punctuation makes it a legitimate question here, then the answer is no. I'm holding you accountable for what you are writing in this thread, not some thread in a distant past. What's more, I'm bringing the discussion back to the original topic while you are trying to derail it with your silly argument over why we shouldn't need a Raw histogram because we don't really even need Raw files to begin with. You clearly have a tactic in your exchanges with me in this thread to divert attention away from your unsupportable positions, that being to ignore or otherwise not directly respond to replies that apparently embarrass you (e.g., the simple conversion I did of your parrot photo that I think showed clearly that the OOC JPEG was far from optimal, my comments about your curious choices for said parrot photo, and your failure here to address the question of ETTR as it relates to OOC JPEGs).
trust me i doubt very much your skill would even go close to embarrassing me.
It's your answers that are potentially embarrassing. I avoid engaging in unsolicited criticism of photographs.
mine shows clipping at 0.67 and no clipping at 0.33
We discussed Adobe hidden exposure compensation already, turn it off to see the truth.
the detail from your program
Details are just what Sony put there. The application applies no enhancements.
@JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:nice detail raw really helped. just for others the raw is left
You are comparing images of different resolutions.
thats what you entered into the competition and thats what was judged, you came 2nd 😁
That will be in your top 5 stupidest posts you have made here :-)
You are "judging" other people's images with your very limited raw processing skills and on monitors that are not profiled and are calibrated by eye. How dumb is that!! 🤣
The images you see on your screens are highly unlikely to match in colour and brightness the image seen on the image creator's screen, so how does it matter to anyone what you think of their images? :-)
It simply doesn't because you are basing your opinion on what you see on your monitor which is not necessarily what was on the image creator's monitor 😄
@DonaldB has written:Raw link. have fun processing.
Really strange combing in that histogram.
Are you referring to the teeth switching between odd and even values across the range, and the crossover between? That is bizarre.
but you can sample the white on the dog in acr from the raw image and 4800 is near perfect from the day light i had shot the image. your image on all my screens even my new tablet which has beautiful colour , your image has a yellow cast and the histogram shows this on your image. i use grey patches to calibrate my monitor's.
Prove that the white in the dog is what you think white should be and I will show you a yellow Polar Bear
Using the white fur of an animal is the worst way to set your WB
your image has a yellow cast and the histogram shows this on your image.
That's most likely just another of your lies.
Post the image you say is mine so I or anyone else can see if it is actually the one I posted and post a screenshot of the histogram you refer to.
this is your whites
@DonaldB has written: @JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:nice detail raw really helped. just for others the raw is left
You are comparing images of different resolutions.
thats what you entered into the competition and thats what was judged, you came 2nd 😁
That will be in your top 5 stupidest posts you have made here :-)
You are "judging" other people's images with your very limited raw processing skills and on monitors that are not profiled and are calibrated by eye. How dumb is that!! 🤣
The images you see on your screens are highly unlikely to match in colour and brightness the image seen on the image creator's screen, so how does it matter to anyone what you think of their images? :-)
It simply doesn't because you are basing your opinion on what you see on your monitor which is not necessarily what was on the image creator's monitor 😄
Its all about the numbers. obviously you have no idea how to process an image from numbers. your monitor could be bright red and it wouldnt make a difference if you process to numbers.
@DannoLeftForums has written: @DonaldB has written: @JimKasson has written: @DonaldB has written:nice detail raw really helped. just for others the raw is left
You are comparing images of different resolutions.
thats what you entered into the competition and thats what was judged, you came 2nd 😁
That will be in your top 5 stupidest posts you have made here :-)
You are "judging" other people's images with your very limited raw processing skills and on monitors that are not profiled and are calibrated by eye. How dumb is that!! 🤣
The images you see on your screens are highly unlikely to match in colour and brightness the image seen on the image creator's screen, so how does it matter to anyone what you think of their images? :-)
It simply doesn't because you are basing your opinion on what you see on your monitor which is not necessarily what was on the image creator's monitor 😄
Its all about the numbers. obviously you have no idea how to process an image from numbers. your monitor could be bright red and it wouldnt make a difference if you process to numbers.
No it isn't all about the numbers and that clearly proves your very limited skills and understanding in post processing raw files 😄 and even sooc jpegs.
You are using unprofiled and calibrated by eye monitors to form your opinions of other people's images. What you see on your screen is clearly not what I see on my screen and I explained why that is very common.
Post the image and screenshot of the histogram you claim shows there is a yellow cast in the image I posted.