• Removed user
    May 29, 2023, 3:51 a.m.

    Well said!!

    I absolutely believe numbers versus how something looks on anybody's screen, calibrated or not.

    Numbers alone tell me that the dog shot was under-exposed at the sensor.

  • Members 976 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:08 a.m.

    May I suggest studying Dan Margulis books?

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:17 a.m.

    The point I am making is that my final images from raw processing are not all about the numbers as DonaldB suggests. Yes of course the numbers play a big part but they are not the only part in my processing to a final image.

  • Removed user
    May 29, 2023, 4:23 a.m.

    Whose dog shot is it? Detail by-the-numbers is quite good!

    A7M01564-ED-laplace-crop.jpg

    A7M01564-ED-laplace-crop.jpg

    JPG, 1.6 MB, uploaded by xpatUSA on May 29, 2023.

  • Members 976 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:24 a.m.

    I'm referring to hues and tints you were discussing. Numbers are evidence.

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:30 a.m.

    I have posted numerous images in both the Samples and Galleries and Photography Critiques forums. Feel free to have a look over there and post any comments or feedback.

  • Removed user
    May 29, 2023, 4:39 a.m.

    The shot's detail analysis by-the-numbers (Laplace edge detection, black-and-white threshold) seems to have conveniently disappeared from the quote.

    I will not be going through [two] fora looking for your images to see if it's your dog shot ... I'm not that stupid ...

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:40 a.m.

    Earlier this thread in a reply to DonaldB I posted:

    "On my screen the colours look pretty much what I would expect but obviously I wasn't there at the time of the shot.

    The colours can be easily adjusted to whatever you would like them to be.

    As I said, on my screen the version I posted looks very much better than the original you posted and obviously since your screen is not profiled and calibrated only by eye I would be very surprised if the colours look exactly the same on your screen as they do on mine."

    What part would you say is not true or not valid?

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:42 a.m.

    What on earth are you waffling on about?

    The original dog photo and raw file was posted by DonaldB. No-one is disputing that.

    And it's only 2 forums, not 3 I mentioned.

    I don't know...maybe you are? 😃

  • Removed user
    May 29, 2023, 4:56 a.m.

    Finally a simple answer to a simple question ... didn't know you could do it!

    Jerk ...

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 4:59 a.m.

    There....fixed your post for you 🙂

    Who posted the original photo was never disputed or in doubt except for you 😄

  • Members 360 posts
    May 29, 2023, 5:02 a.m.

    Exactly! That makes two of us.
    The topic is why don't cameras have raw histogram. You can read it in the heading. Just like you, I have fun. How dare me to have a fun.

  • Removed user
    May 29, 2023, 5:03 a.m.

    Where would we be without you?

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 5:09 a.m.

    You are providing further proof supporting my point at:

    dprevived.com/t/why-is-so-much-nonsense-talked-about-telephoto-compression/3111/7/#post-42930

  • Removed user
    May 29, 2023, 5:16 a.m.

    Please improve your English grammar; it should have said:

    "I have posted numerous images in both the Samples and Galleries and [the] Photography Critiques forums."

    While you're at it, might as well take the apostrophy out of "Camera's" in the thread title ...

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 5:21 a.m.

    You are providing further proof supporting my point at:

    dprevived.com/t/why-is-so-much-nonsense-talked-about-telephoto-compression/3111/7/#post-42930 🤣🤣

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 29, 2023, 5:23 a.m.
  • Members 204 posts
    May 29, 2023, 5:31 a.m.

    Not only that. Prove that without calibration that what you are seeing on your monitor is a neutral color and not just close to being one.