Will you stay if DPReview doesn't close?

I haven't decided. I gave up on them due to moderation, uneven enforcement of the rules, and their cowardice in dealing with known trolls. But I did like the film forum, which was always an oasis of good behavior. Some of the mods I had a problem with seem to be gone, and the well-known troll has moved elsewhere. Unfortunately some of the negativity still remains, and some of the people from whom I learned the most have gone away as well -- many are here, but here too they are plagued by people who want to turn learning opportunities into arguments, so the s/n ratio isn't great -- and with fewer beginners asking questions, there are fewer opportunities to learn new takes from people I respect.

Soooo, right now I'm lurking in both places, contributing to film here, and waiting to see how things shape up. I do think there's a chance that a "purged" DPR could evolve into something positive.

I think if Photrio had a forum structure similar to this one, with a beginner area and an open-talk forum, that'd be my main haunt, but the way they divide their forums subdivides the conversation a little too much, IMHO. Pentaxforums is great for film, but obviously pretty well centered on one brand.

Aaron

Wait -- I can understand why Bob can be a controversial figure, but who the heck doesn't like Bill Ferris or Michael Fryd? They're two of the guys I learned the most from, and together with Bob (and, what the heck, you too, Great Bustard), they're one of the big reasons to put up with the other circular insulting nonsense that no one moderates and keep reading here.

Aaron

Unfortunately was too late to enter the poll. I am not returning to dpreview.com other than to check prior post info or prior reviews. My forum sites for contributing will be this site and dprforum.com. Amazon/dpreview longevity confidence is zero.

If only the forums remained, I'd prefer to stay here.

But it sounds like Amazon could be in talks with a third party to take over the entire site, which could make it more (or far less!) tempting to return, depending on who that is. I wouldn't want to return there just to see the site shut down again in a couple of years. Dpreview commenting on the shutdown of Imaging Resource 4 weeks after its own announced shutdown date isn't encouraging...

We all count for that on @bobn2, and his huge wallet

( he is keeping very quiet the last few days - isn't he )

So... you are telling me .... IT'S NOT TRUE ????

AAArrrghhh .

Crying, folded in a corner !!!!!

You are doing something right when you can inspire people to write entire 10+ paragraph long essays about you.

Do both.... I do wish there was more 'film' involvement on either though.... skills, technique...etc... to bounce ideas off of on a more active forum / film

Great Idea ... if may I say....

I think that's up to us -- to get the conversation going on the film forum. We'll never get to where Photrio is but as I have said I don't think their setup is suited to general conversation. Then again, DPR's film forum always did pretty well, and if DPR isn't going away, that might be the place to be for film discussion. Happily it avoided most of the negativity I saw in some other discussion areas, and I'm already seeing a bit of venom in the film discussions here -- people who can't voice disagreement or correction without being argumentative.

Aaron

I was on the old site for over ten years, and never did post a gear list. I thought a photographer should be able to create good images with whatever he had, not the mythical 'best' required.

Excellent! You did some moderation!!! Was that so difficult? Now if you can just do it to DannoRuinsForums when he gets out of line, this place might stand a chance!!

You are proving my point because you cannot even troll properly :-D

Bob said it is because of your attempts to hijack threads that some moderation has been introduced.

Your funny and childish attempts to insult people have no effect except to make you look weak, immature and stupid in my eyes.

Must be getting close to school time for you now. See you after school and make sure you eat all of your lunch this time:-)

Yep. that's a great idea :-)