• Members 285 posts
    April 25, 2023, 7:09 p.m.

    The recent releases of DxO's Photo Lab and Pure RAW now include Prime XD, there new noise reduction with extra detail. Last night I decided to push my limits and find my limit. These two samples tell the story and represent what I found in multiple images.

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    ISO 10,000 seems to hold up
    X-H2S NIKON AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f/5.6E PF ED VR lens 500mm f/5.6 1/300s 10000 ISO +0.7 EV

    042423DSCF8859-RAF_DxO_DeepPRIMEXD.jpg

    ISO 12,800 starts to louse detail. Look at the eyes and dark part of face for lost detail
    X-H2S NIKON AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f/5.6E PF ED VR lens 500mm f/5.6 1/125s 12800 ISO +1.7 EV

    Morris

    042423DSCF8859-RAF_DxO_DeepPRIMEXD.jpg

    JPG, 1.3 MB, uploaded by Morris on April 25, 2023.

    042423DSCF7519-RAF_DxO_DeepPRIMEXD.jpg

    JPG, 1.3 MB, uploaded by Morris on April 25, 2023.

  • Members 29 posts
    April 26, 2023, 1:42 a.m.

    Pretty incredible results. Would be amazing if a camera could someday have such power within its processor (and not chew up battery too much) to do that in camera, or even half that good!

    -Matt

  • Members 285 posts
    April 26, 2023, 12:08 p.m.

    We see this in JPEG images. When we shoot RAW, we want something very close to what the sensor captured so that we can process and get the very best.

    Morris

  • Members 421 posts
    April 26, 2023, 11:37 p.m.

    Have you tried Adobe's new Noise AI. I tried it and it does a remarkably good job. I own DXO Prime XD but haven't made much use of it.

    Bob

  • Members 260 posts
    April 27, 2023, 1:53 a.m.

    it is full of bugs

    PS: "I own DXO Prime XD" - like a patent or so ? charge DxO some money, if they don't pay - sue them

  • Members 15 posts
    April 27, 2023, 3:14 a.m.

    I wish PureRaw had a sharpness slider just like PhotoLab. I know PureRaw has a lens sharpness toggle button but I found that it doesn't really do much, it still looks over processed.
    PhotoLab denoising does a way better job with feather detail compared to Topaz Photo AI.

  • Members 421 posts
    April 27, 2023, 5:05 a.m.

    I suppose to be accurate I should have said, "I own a licensed copy of the software to use in accordance with the policies laid down by DXO." 😁

  • Members 21 posts
    April 27, 2023, 12:58 p.m.

    Not surprising results. I have found the X-H1 RAW images processed with DxO PureRaw 2 were very good up to ISO 10000, as long as the subject DR doesn't exceed what the sensor can tolerate, about 4.5 to 5 f-stops. Generally when you shoot at those ISOs it is dark and there isn't much scene DR, so it all works out.

    I did not notice a significant improvement in either detail or processing speed when using the PureRaw 3 in the DxOs PhotoLab 6.4 over the standalone PureRaw 2. The Prime XD setting took much longer to process and I didn't feel it delivered commensurate results over PureRaw 2. Went back to using Capture One with some files processed in PureRaw 2 and then rendered in Capture One.

    It comes down to whatever you like to do; if you like DxO PhotoLab then the PureRaw addition is a plus, otherwise you are better off with the standalone PureRaw application, IMO.

  • Members 285 posts
    April 28, 2023, 1 a.m.

    I liked DxO PhotoLab before they tried to make it into a image processor. I'm glad they went back to there roots with PureRAW as a RAW converter. I find the difference very noticeable between Prime and Prime XD when the ISO climbs or when I crop. I have a very fast system and there is hardly any difference in processing time between Prime and Prime XD on it.

    Morris