• Members 623 posts
    Oct. 29, 2024, 1:44 a.m.

    20241027 -- 174712.jpg

    20241027 -- 174712.jpg

    JPG, 1.6 MB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Oct. 29, 2024.

  • Members 3952 posts
    Oct. 29, 2024, 6:24 a.m.

    Very nice colours in the sky but the RGB values in foreground are all single digits close to zero - very near black.

    I would be surprised if I couldn't see more detail in the foreground at the time since the sun is still reasonably high above the horizon.

  • Oct. 29, 2024, 6:28 p.m.

    I love the sky - the patterns are really good.

    [And how dark the foreground is, is irrelevant to me - it just provides a natural border to the interesting bits]

    Alan

  • Members 415 posts
    Oct. 29, 2024, 7:30 p.m.

    Carefully worded: Danno was using his screen-color-picker. Your experience could be be different.

  • Members 3952 posts
    Oct. 29, 2024, 7:34 p.m.

    Yep, I described what I see on my particular screen because that is all I can go by.

    A given image will not render exactly the same on every screen for obvious and commonly known reasons.

  • Oct. 29, 2024, 7:35 p.m.

    I suggest to comment on posted image, not to delve into technical pixel-peeping. You may start new thread in some technical part of forum, linking to source post here or something.

  • Members 1416 posts
    Oct. 29, 2024, 10:38 p.m.

    Exactly. The photographer chose settings that create a silhouette of the trees on the ridge and give a frame to the base of the image. Discussion about whether or not it might have been possible to see detail in the dark areas is completely irrelevant to discussion of the image.

  • Members 623 posts
    Oct. 30, 2024, 3:44 a.m.

    Yes -- this is exactly correct. I could have processed the photo differently to retain more detail in the shadows, but I processed the photo in the way that I did for the exact reasons you mention. Not all photos benefit from displaying the full range of the DR recorded by the sensor, in my opinion, but others, of course, may feel differently. For me, that "HDR look" is often very unappealing.

    Let me add two more from the same day:

    20241027 -- 175254.jpg

    20241027 -- 175947.jpg

    20241027 -- 175947.jpg

    JPG, 1.4 MB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Oct. 30, 2024.

    20241027 -- 175254.jpg

    JPG, 1.5 MB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Oct. 30, 2024.

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    Oct. 30, 2024, 5:13 a.m.
  • Members 3952 posts
    Oct. 30, 2024, 6:33 a.m.

    No problem if that is what you wanted.

    It comes down to personal preferences and taste.

    For my taste there is too much very near black in the foreground but the sky is nice as posted earlier.

  • Members 623 posts
    Oct. 30, 2024, 7:18 a.m.

    Exactly what I was thinking when taking the photo!

  • Members 623 posts
    Oct. 30, 2024, 7:18 a.m.

    Here's a version with a [slightly] lightened foreground:

    20241027 -- 174712 -- 2.jpg

    20241027 -- 174712 -- 2.jpg

    JPG, 1.8 MB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Oct. 30, 2024.

  • Members 3952 posts
    Oct. 30, 2024, 7:52 p.m.

    You can make the foreground as light or as dark as you like. It comes down to personal taste.

    You like a large chunk of near black in the foreground and that is fine.

    Personally, either a lighter foreground or as is but some cropped off the bottom would make the sky stand out more without a largish near black "blob" in the foreground acting as a distracting eye magnet.

    Rather than you posting versions guessing what I mean with the foreground, something like below imo works better as it shows a hint of detail in the foreground which still acts a "border" to some extent along the bottom.

    The path in the center acts as a leading line into the scene and especially the sun.


    dprevived.com/media/attachments/87/3f/iZzSHoviSg9YkaRoL6jI4MSbHRuLhx8FC5K9TdUNmJhqSyxRvKRsKoRRHHVlbflU/yesterdayssunset.jpg

    yesterdaysSunset_edited.jpg

    JPG, 169.3 KB, uploaded by DanHasLeftForum on Oct. 31, 2024.

  • Members 623 posts
    Oct. 31, 2024, 5:44 a.m.

    Kind of. For high DR photos, the lighter you make the darker portions, the more noisy they appear. So, even given that your taste might prefer lighter, the greater appearance of noise may make darker the more pleasing option.

    Sometimes, I'll keep the highlights blown, too, or process the photo in a manner in which the highlights blow out.

    Fair to say, since, as you note, we all have our own aesthetics. For example, in your edit, the sky was way too oversaturated for my tastes (not that I don't indulge in the same from time to time -- just not feeling it for this particular photo). Here's a third edit:

    20241027 -- 174712 -- 3.jpg

    As a side, for me, the processing side of photography is more creative than taking the actual photograph. Like music covers, sometimes there's a clear "better", but more often, it's a matter of more or less equally good different versions. But, for sure, to each their own!

    20241027 -- 174712 -- 3.jpg

    JPG, 695.6 KB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Oct. 31, 2024.

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    Oct. 31, 2024, 6:29 a.m.

    Yes, raising shadows beyond noise being acceptable defeats the purpose of raising shadows.

    But with today's modern noise reduction apps, noise is becoming less and less of an issue.

  • Oct. 31, 2024, 10:32 a.m.

    Dan, were you given permission to edit that image? We have rules in place.

    Alan

  • Members 3952 posts
    Oct. 31, 2024, 10:56 a.m.

    It doesn't appear you follow the rules as shown in the Edit Me An Image thread when you replaced the sky which according to the rules is not allowed.

  • Members 623 posts
    Oct. 31, 2024, 3:49 p.m.

    Anyone can edit and repost the photos I put up here (just don't pass off my photos as your own!). Is there a setting I need to check in my profile for this permission?

  • Oct. 31, 2024, 4:26 p.m.
  • Members 415 posts
    Oct. 31, 2024, 5:17 p.m.

    answer the question for a change

  • Members 862 posts
    Oct. 31, 2024, 7:49 p.m.

    This is really nice.