• Members 244 posts
    June 15, 2023, 2:19 a.m.

    Anybody seen this?

    www.dpreview.com/news/0308510095/zeiss-says-it-s-not-leaving-the-photo-industry

    Short blurb (emphasis added):


    “Zeiss has not withdrawn from the photo lens market.

    A simple look at www.zeiss.com/consumer-products/int/photography.html or amazon.com shows that we are still promoting and selling our photo lenses.

    But we have to face the facts. In the first months of the pandemic, the global market declined significantly and irreversibly. And companies have to adapt.

    And, of course, we are bringing our unique expertise to mobile imaging. Because it is also clear that consumers, as well as ambitious and professional photographers, increasingly prefer their smartphones for all-day photography.”


    The overall camera market is going to look very different in 5-10 years. IMO, the next decade will see as much (or more) changes than we saw when the industry went from film to digital.

  • Members 861 posts
    June 15, 2023, 3:30 a.m.

    On track to look exactly like I was expecting....tech becomes better and cheaper, more people buy and use it. Businesses follow dollars, not fandoms. I'm not gonna be shocked 40 years from now if photographer as a profession isn't practically dead. There will be no reason to pay anyone because the tech will be too good to need one.

  • Members 71 posts
    June 15, 2023, 5:22 a.m.

    in 2022, a full three years after mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras effectively killed off the DSLR. The only genuine Zeiss product I own is an inherited pair of 1970s East German binoculars (and no, that one at least wasn't used to spot civilians to shoot at). So let's not beat around the bush about what this means either way - they might change what kind of product they bother letting their corporate partners slap their logo on, but Zeiss hasn't really had to care about consumer-grade stuff for a long time.

  • June 15, 2023, 9:51 a.m.

    The front of my Sony RX-100 Mk.VA says Zeiss in two places.

    David

  • Members 209 posts
    June 15, 2023, 11:06 a.m.

    We surely live in interesting times when a company has to deny a rumor on Fred Miranda. But I am afraid it does not convince. Zeiss seems more and more to rely on selling expertise and the label and less on making things. Other third party lens makers are doing pretty well at the high end of the current market .

  • June 15, 2023, 3:08 p.m.

    The alternative to photo lenses is not smartphone lenses. Most of Zeiss' revenue comes from specialist optics fro scientific and industrial purposes. In particular, they provide the optics for semiconductor lithography equipment made by ASML. ASML now has about 90% of the global market share for new semiconductor plant, with Nikon a distant second. An ASML EUV scanner costs around $200M, and a significant proportion of that goes to Zeiss. In fact, their engagement in smartphone optics is peripheral. They have provided metrology equipment to companies making smartphone lenses and part of the deal is Zeiss technical support and brand licensing. Their engagement in the photography lens business is similar except that they take a larger part in the marketing. That's why you see design patents from Tamron for Zeiss branded lenses.