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    DNG versus proprietary raw Technical Discussions Feb. 12, 2024, 1:57 p.m.
    @xpatUSA has written:
    @DonaldB has written:

    I dont think any camera brand uses raw raw anymore. I think they are all manipulated by every manufacturer.

    Agreed ... which is why I said "what a camera writes to the card" and which is why I examined raw histograms with RawDigger.

    Has it ever been that "raw raw" ? I think the "raw" has always been "what a camera writes". And what is the camera today? A computer with a lens and a sensor.

    Btw. Donald, do you know how do cameras manipulate raw files?

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Feb. 12, 2024, 10:03 a.m.
    @simplejoy has written:

    Great shot - I like the clarity and the colors in the background! You should be able to find all the Componars here:
    deltalenses.com/?s=componar+105

    Thank you.šŸ˜Ž Yes, my lens is the version 4. The biggest aperture 4,5 is engraved with comma, not dot as I wrote in my post. Its 4,5/105mm at the lens body.

    @simplejoy has written:

    Hexagonal bokeh is fun to use from time to time:

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53142068822_7e74b4620d_b.jpg
    Hexagons: Sinking outside the box
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

    This is great! You can show how a cube in 3D space becomes a hexagon in 2D.šŸ‘šŸ˜ And that with your colours!

    Btw. My Componar is a very good ball machine at wide open. I don't need (m)any more Meyer Trioplans when I have that Componar and Travegar.

    Componar-balls.jpg

    travegar-balls.jpg

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Feb. 12, 2024, 9:49 a.m.
    @barondla has written:

    Read an article once, probably by Keppler, saying most consumer lenses are optimized at ~ 10 feet. Consumer macro lenses at ~ 1 meter. I imagine specialized macro lenses are optimized for nearer distances. Always thought that was interesting. Wonder if the same optical formula can be adjusted for different distances or if totally different optical designs are used?
    Thanks,
    barondla

    I think most lenses are at their best shooting distances at around 10ft/3m. And most pictures are taken focused at distances between 1 to 5 meters.

    Many macro lenses are claimed to be optimized for 1:1 magnification, but that's maybe not true. My experience is that my macros are fine at magnifications from 1:10 to 1:2 but not so good at 1:1 or higher. But seldom I shoot at the life size. Do you?

    @barondla has written:

    Wonder if the same optical formula can be adjusted for different distances

    I'm sure the same formula can be adjusted. What is even more interesting the very same lens without any adjusting can render as well at close-ups as landscapes!

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Feb. 11, 2024, 3:43 p.m.

    Componar 4.5/105mm at f/8. Surprisingly Schneider went hexagonal with this three element lens!

    6petal_flower.jpg

    Edit. Now I'm not sure of the lens design. I found the diagram of this lense's successor Componar-S. It was a four element in three groups design. Maybe this older one too?

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    It's Grandpa's birthday šŸŽ‰šŸ˜ Fujifilm Feb. 7, 2024, 4:04 p.m.
    @Daneland has written:

    It is hard to imagine such a collaboration between companies nowadays: both companies names are written on the camera bodies. The closest thing I can think of is Leica and Panasonic, they share many things internally and lenses are named same way but not the cameras.

    Did you know that Fujifilm made Hasselblad H lenses ?

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    *** This Week Through Your Eyes 2024.02.03 *** Image discussions, critiques and challenges Feb. 5, 2024, 8:23 p.m.
    @OpenCube has written:

    "Precious Memories"
    preciousmemories.jpg

    Precious Memories got my soul:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZCycPwo8ZM

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    Article on Tomioka and their Industrial Lenses Open Talk Jan. 21, 2024, 11:39 a.m.
    @leitz has written:

    I was referring to the button that normally takes you to the shopping cart.

    I'm sorry. I misunderstood your message. 😢

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    Article on Tomioka and their Industrial Lenses Open Talk Jan. 19, 2024, 3:05 p.m.
    @leitz has written:

    The "Buy Now" button appears to have been omitted.

    Sometimes it happens for eager hobbyists that they start to admire the subject of their hobby so much that other people call them biased. And sometimes they really are biased.
    In photography forums I've seen the word fanboy many times. I think it is insulting. Sometimes there are wars between fanboys of this or that brand. Sad to read.
    If you read simplejoy's article, you might critisize him as fanboy of Tominon.
    I think that's not the case. He is very interested in Tominon / Tomioka lenses and researching them, but a fanboy? If you think so, I don't buy your opinion .

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    Article on Tomioka and their Industrial Lenses Open Talk Jan. 19, 2024, 10:10 a.m.

    Great articles!šŸ‘ And so pleasantly illustrated with simplejoy's mighty pictures! šŸ˜‹ If you can't read you can enjoy only looking at the photos of the lens article.

    Thank you for using that huge amount of be... ehm, huge amount of your time and energy to do that work! šŸ˜

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    A long, long time ago! Other Manufacturers Jan. 17, 2024, 5:40 p.m.
    @Maoby has written:

    Here, however, in photo N°14, I find a clear advantage for the SCS 720x.

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443865661_a1069fb053_h.jpg
    N°14 Kodak DCS 200 (1992)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53442940712_a71e446514_h.jpg
    N°14 Kodak DCS 720x (2001)
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720313829380

    That's why I always take between 15 and 20 photos in different locations.
    To get a better overall idea.

    But it's true that I often prefer photos of vintage cameras.
    Which can be discouraging for the future. 😈

    The lighting seems to have changed between these shots. Like there was a reflector or fill flash in the 720x shot. Better it is anyway.

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    A long, long time ago! Other Manufacturers Jan. 17, 2024, 4:02 p.m.
    @WolfsHead has written:

    Once again, I like the DCS200 photo most - though I doubt that it is an accurate colour representation…

    There's so much color aliasing and contrast in the DCS720X shot.

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    veteran device tested DIY and Photo Experiments Jan. 16, 2024, 2:40 p.m.
    @PHz has written:

    The Thorlab thing has as precise distance-setting mechanism. One may change the operative ends between pointed and spade-shaped with the minuscule hex key that lives in the paper envelope.

    It fufills all needs for both destructive and constructive work.

    Exept for basket-cases of fogging and internal oil spills on glass and aperture, I do not recommend unscrewing anything on a reasonably heathy lens, even if the Thor lab device may encourage you.

    p.

    My use case for that tool is mounting and unmounting the view camera lenses to the lens plates. I'm going to screw and unscrew the retaining ring. It's routine with those lenses, not destroying healthy lenses. I have more lenses than lens plates. So, I have sometimes to unmount an old * lens and to mount the new * one to the lens plate.

    *Old and new are very relative terms when speaking about my lenses.

    @PHz has written:

    It fufills all needs for both destructive and constructive work.

    Thank you, this is the answer to the question I was asking. šŸ‘

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Jan. 16, 2024, 12:10 p.m.
    @simplejoy has written:

    He certainly has done some great research. I'm not sure it really is suitable for video content though with the amount of information - his review videos are way better in that aspect. Excellent presentation and it's obvious that he puts a lot of time into it.

    Yes I agree. More a presentation than a movie. A little too quick for a movie, I had to stop at almost every slide to read the content. Still interesting.

    @simplejoy has written:

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/51635315842_7ae5e390b3_b.jpgflic.kr/p/2mEQusf

    Too hexy for my love? by simple.joy, on Flickr

    Nice pictures again!šŸ‘

    But, isn't it Too hexagonal? Not too hexy.

    Try to sing it: "I'm too hexagonal for my cat. I'm too hexagonal for my hat. I'm too hexagonal!" šŸ˜‚šŸ˜œšŸ˜Ž

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Jan. 15, 2024, 4:12 p.m.
    @simplejoy has written:

    Here's a shot with a tiny, but mighty fine Tomioka Tominon 35 mm f/4.5 lens (made for the Polaroid MP4/5 system):

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53465575950_4ac8466a1a_b.jpg
    Swan to reckon with...
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

    Very nice again!šŸ˜
    I see you have balanced the hexagonal bokeh balls with the Swan Stabilo pens or should I say stabilised?šŸ˜

    Do you know anything or do you have own experience with Tominon 75mm lens also made for Polaroid MP4 for macro?
    I read somewhere, maybe in Delta lenses, that it's reversed Tessar type and quite OK.

    Btw. did you see this www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYbvniACtw ?

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Jan. 15, 2024, 3:05 p.m.
    @simplejoy has written:
    @TimoK has written:

    But I complain about Rob's claim. I checked this with my Apo-Digitar-M a couple of years ago. Almost at infinity, focused to ~ half a kilometer, the image circle, or with Rob's term, the circle of good image quality was not even covering the FF frame.

    Interesting. Has Rob claimed something about the Apo-Digitar-M? I thought he only tested the Apo-Componon 90 mm f/4.5... Isn't the Apo-Digitar-M specifically optimized for macro (hence the M?). Mark tested the Makro-Symmar 120 mm at infinity and found that it was also only mediocre in the corners. The Apo-Componon 90 mm however did pretty well at distance in his tests. Robert OToole told me similar things.

    Apo-Digitar M 120mm f/5.6 is the very same lens as a little older Makro-Symmar HM. It was sold as optimized to 1:1 and recommended from 1:4 to 4:1 magnifications.
    I think it is very good from 1:10 or 1:8 to 1:1. At bigger magnifications it starts to become softer, or so I feel. But everything shot over life size is very prone to user errors.

    @simplejoy has written:

    It's also more than fine at infinity when stopped down a bit, according to Rob de Loe. Sure it won't reach the sharpness of the best lenses optimized for landscape work, but I doubt the difference will be dramatic.

    I don't remember who it was, but I also have read that claim. I thought it was Rob de Loe when you said so. Anyway, it's image quality is not acceptable focused at infinity. If I remember I took F8 and F11 shots. That is stopped down a bit, isn't it? Btw. who's Mark?

    @simplejoy has written:

    The Apo-Digitar 90 mm f/4.5 (which Schneider also sold as Apo-Componon with seemingly identical specs) is known to be a great performing lens at a variety of magnifications. That's not true for all Schneider enlarging lenses though...

    Yes, it was Apo-Componon HM earlier. My Apo-Digitar L 80mm f/4 was Componon-S before it turned to digital...šŸ˜‡ It is also very sharp and free from CA's at landscapes. I have not tested it at near distances. I have to check it some day.

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Jan. 15, 2024, 11:09 a.m.
    @simplejoy has written:
    @TimoK has written:

    I think almost all macro lenses were optimized at 1:1, or said to be so. Nothing to do with focal length.
    For excample the Makro-Symmar was sold for photographers as a lens 1:1 optimized, but usable from 1:4 to 4:1 magnification.
    For scientific purposes they sold (are still selling) four different versions at fixed magnifications.

    Yeah, of course... But if you look at the test results by Robert and some other people who do thorough testing, lens performance at 1:1 is not that good with many, many macro lenses (particularly when it comes to CAs), so that seems to be more in theory than anything else.

    Or more marketing than anything else!
    I think photographers seldom shoot at 1:1 magnification. More often they need macro lenses for 1:8 - 1:2 shots. But it's nice to know that my lens performs fine even closer than I need.

    @simplejoy has written:

    I have a Makro-Symmar optimized for 1:3, and this is its quality at 1:1:

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/51564831268_e54635ac71_b.jpg
    Walking away from the competition...
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/52716529543_7fc9c9c357_b.jpg
    Tip-for-tat
    by simple.joy, on Flickr

    You certainly won't hear me complain about that... šŸ˜‰ It's also more than fine at infinity when stopped down a bit, according to Rob de Loe. Sure it won't reach the sharpness of the best lenses optimized for landscape work, but I doubt the difference will be dramatic.

    Nothing to complain about your pictures.šŸ˜… They are fine.
    But I complain about Rob's claim. I checked this with my Apo-Digitar-M a couple of years ago. Almost at infinity, focused to ~ half a kilometer, the image circle, or with Rob's term, the circle of good image quality was not even covering the FF frame. I have better lenses to landscapes. But not better ones to shots at near to life size!šŸ˜

    Symmar-S 135mm is quite good a lens to close-up work too. Here around 1:3 at f/8.

    small_DSC3112.JPG

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    veteran device tested DIY and Photo Experiments Jan. 14, 2024, 3:47 p.m.
    @PHz has written:

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    I see a Thorlabs spanner wrench on your table. Do you think it's good / worth of it's price?

    @PHz has written:

    all the screws they had losened would have to be replaced according to company policy, since their fastening capacity had decreased by having been use once.

    I agree their policy. I have so many times opened the screws in my old lenses and then when reassembling them broken them.

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    Q1 2024 (Jan-Mar) — Through Your Adapted Lens Adapted and 3rd party lenses Jan. 7, 2024, 4:54 p.m.
    @simplejoy has written:

    heavily specialized for 1:1 (like Rodenstocks Apo-Rodagon-D 75 mm f/4 or the Carl Zeiss S-Planar 74 mm f/4) - seems to be a sweet spot for that magnification that focal length.

    I think almost all macro lenses were optimized at 1:1, or said to be so. Nothing to do with focal length.
    For excample the Makro-Symmar was sold for photographers as a lens 1:1 optimized, but usable from 1:4 to 4:1 magnification.
    For scientific purposes they sold (are still selling) four different versions at fixed magnifications.

    @simplejoy has written:

    I have an Apo-Digitar 90 mm f/4.5 - a really good lens and great across a wide range of magnifications.

    Those lens designers say that you can make a lens with peaking sharpness at one magnification or a lens which is quite sharp at wider range of magnifications, not both at the same lens. The floating elements are made to correct this limitation.

    @simplejoy has written:

    Have you ever used one of Rodenstocks equivalents - the HR Digarons? They are even more expensive, but they have that incredible sounding HR 105 mm float lens:
    www.arca-shop.de/objektive/rodenstock-objektive/aperture-only-ohne-verschluss/2934/rodenstock-hr-digaron-macro-1-5-6/105-mm-float-blendenkoerper

    Jim Kasson has one of those and said it's pretty much unmatched, even though the Makro-Symmar does provide similar quality at its designated optimal magnification.

    No, too expensive for me. I'm aware of Jim's writings but... If you need a lens for only one magnification, maybe Schneider's industrial lens could be a good solution.
    If you need wide range of magnifications, you'll need four of them.
    Btw. did you know they are Pyrites now? schneiderkreuznach.com/en/company/news/newsroom/lens-renaming

    And one more link: www.cambo.com/en/actus-series/actus-b-mini-view-camera/actar-105-hr-macro/

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