• Members 457 posts
    May 12, 2023, 2:19 a.m.

    I see. You have a situation where you know the light will not be so bright to cause clipping at ISO 800.
    I just realized that the exposure indicator has correct metering feedback even when the exposure simulation is turned off. So that can be used to catch situations where clipping could occur at ISO 800.

    BTW, Canon R5 has some read noise weirdness between ISO 800 and ISO 1600 and the most invariant range starts at ISO 1600 (link). It probably does not matter in practice.

  • Members 216 posts
    May 12, 2023, 2:28 a.m.

    People have you just ignore them

    No the camera just recorded what was there for that given light

    Maybe you should think about what this means, maybe just maybe that is what the camera recorded in the raw file

    When you know how your camera records data it can be easily done on the fly

  • Members 435 posts
    May 12, 2023, 2:38 a.m.

    If I ever have issues getting the best out of raw, I'll be sure to let you know.

    Danny.

  • Members 2306 posts
    May 12, 2023, 2:50 a.m.

    i dont need to know how my camera records data. i need to get the shot i intended in the time frame i have on a shoot, do you need to know what cylinder pressure is in your car before changing gears 🤨

  • Members 216 posts
    May 12, 2023, 3:02 a.m.

    No but knowing the best RPM to shift your car at can win you the race, loose the race or loose the race and destroy your engine

  • Removed user
    May 12, 2023, 3:11 a.m.

    Mr neither- like, who cares ...

  • Members 746 posts
    May 12, 2023, 3:30 a.m.

    So we're up to 450 posts (combined) of back and forth on the best way to shoot raw files.
    Little wonder I leave it up to the camera most of the time 🤣🤣

  • Members 29 posts
    May 12, 2023, 3:34 a.m.

    OK, let's take an even closer look:

    image-9-1024x686.jpg

    The clipped pixels are actually represented even in the linear version of the RawDigger histogram. They're just hard to see. So what? Just because they're hard to see in a low resolution histogram doesn't change the fact that there are, indeed, clipped green pixels in the raw image. Nor does it change the mischaracterization in your article where you state, "It looks like there is clipping, but there is not." My recommendation is that you correct that at least, even if you don't want to dive into a discussion of how near-specular and specular highlights need to be factored into interpretation of in-camera histograms/blinkies when ETTR'ing.

    image-9-1024x686.jpg

    JPG, 136.0 KB, uploaded by knickerhawk on May 12, 2023.

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 12, 2023, 3:35 a.m.

    If you leave all the decision making to the camera at best you should get a nice looking sooc jpeg.

    If you want to maximise the quality of the raw data then you will need to make some decisions for yourself as described earlier.

  • Members 2306 posts
    May 12, 2023, 3:49 a.m.

    I think they got Grammar and gamma mixed up along the way 🤣😂😎😵‍💫

  • Members 1737 posts
    May 12, 2023, 3:51 a.m.

    I will change the wording.

  • Members 2306 posts
    May 12, 2023, 4:33 a.m.

    I feel sorry for non sony users this is from my a6300 6 years old
    you can also sett zebras to 109+range
    and for the record the histogram is aligned with the raw file not jpeg as everyone seems to think.

    3392.jpg

    live histogram
    A7M01370.JPG

    Jpeg file.
    92jpeg.jpg

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    JPG, 102.8 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 12, 2023.

    3392.jpg

    JPG, 156.7 KB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 12, 2023.

    A7M01370.JPG

    JPG, 2.2 MB, uploaded by DonaldB on May 12, 2023.

  • Members 746 posts
    May 12, 2023, 5:23 a.m.

    Yeah. I choose a fairly neutral picture style such as natural or standard, set blinkies/zebras at 105%, turn on iDynamic which gives a better than fair preview of what the converted raw will look like, without falling to bits, and fire away. If the dynamic range is way outside a single frame, I'll shoot a 3 or 5 frame bracket, and merge in post. The majority of the time I use the camera JPEGs with a little bit of an edit.

  • Members 3952 posts
    May 12, 2023, 5:44 a.m.

    I have no reason to believe any of that is even close to true because I haven't the raw files.

  • Members 2306 posts
    May 12, 2023, 6:19 a.m.

    make your own. i have no reason to believe you can.

  • May 12, 2023, 7:06 a.m.

    According to the Oxford dictionary:
    precise
    adjective
    marked by exactness and accuracy of expression or detail.

    So, how was I mis-using 'precise' according to your daughter?
    BTW, if we want to hide behind our children, my son has a PhD in English.

  • Members 2306 posts
    May 12, 2023, 7:29 a.m.

    Does he work as a lecturer for a university ?
    if we didnt raise our children to be more advanced than ourselves we would still be in caves.