• DonCoxpanorama_fish_eye
    280 posts
    2 years ago

    your testing method is not going to be accurate because the red channel is not going to be the same colour red , i shot a red lunch box and my in-camera histogram was pretty well spot on .given the colour red is a mix of rgb colours. i might be wrong ,but someone more experienced might chip in.
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    Red plastic isn't a problem, unless it's fluorescent. Red flowers are the problem.

    DP3M0515a2_p-sharpen-Softness.jpg

    JPG, 3.3 MB, uploaded by DonCox 2 years ago.

  • DonCoxpanorama_fish_eye
    280 posts
    2 years ago

    I think you should state what you think is the correct facts, but not get into a long argument with somebody who has his own collection of facts.

    We each live in our own private universe.

    Don

  • bobn2panorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    The problem is generally that you state what you think are the correct facts and your interlocutor responds saying your correct facts are incorrect. Do you stop there? If you do it looks like you're acknowledging that your facts were were wrong.

  • IliahBorgpanorama_fish_eye
    976 posts
    2 years ago

    Single malt applied correctly gives you infinite patience.

  • DonCoxpanorama_fish_eye
    280 posts
    2 years ago

    You're a bad lad, Ted.

    Don

  • DonCoxpanorama_fish_eye
    280 posts
    2 years ago

    I say to myself "What a maroon !" and leave it. Life's too short to worry about always winning arguments.

    Don

  • DeletedRemoved user
    2 years ago

    I once read of a way to post something and then explicitly leave the last word to one's opponent, such that the opponent "lost" if they responded.

    It's a great pity that I've forgotten the type of wording of that "something" ... a means to make a point and "win" either way ...

  • bobn2panorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    If you apply enough.

  • bobn2panorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    In my view it's not really about winning arguments, it's about not allowing 'alternative facts' to propagate. In any case, we have an excellent example in this very thread how a lot of patience allowed such a discussion to reach a conclusion where both parties agreed on what were the facts. That's not always going to happen, but sometimes it will.

  • NoImagehelp_outline
    240 posts
    2 years ago

    Yes, and this forum has effectively become “dpscience”. Which is fine if that’s the expected direction. For real world photography there’s not much happening on here. In fact, if anyone dares relate any of this back to the real world you get told off, talked down to or insulted. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • JimKassonpanorama_fish_eye
    1738 posts
    2 years ago

    Only if you feel that one-third stop improvement in photon noise will make a difference in your photography. The point of the numbers is not to tell you what to do. The point of the numbers is to give you information so that you can decide what to do.

  • Mackiesbackpanorama_fish_eye
    243 posts
    2 years ago

    My guess is that you have far more posts on "science" threads here than anything else. You may counter with "that's all there is", to which my reply would be for you to find the start new thread button and get it started. This forum is a blank canvas. If you want more image threads, or whatever you are looking for here, simply start it. I will click on it.

  • NoImagehelp_outline
    240 posts
    2 years ago

    Or maybe I’ll just keep posting that stuff on my own blog, or maybe join FM which seems to be massively more oriented to photography rather than a bunch of scientists having a pissing contest

  • DeletedRemoved user
    2 years ago

    I have time to slow down, so what is meant by "maximise"?

    2&3 are not applicable to my camera, so no comment.

  • NoImagehelp_outline
    240 posts
    2 years ago

    I think you meant to say your way of working. Because clearly my points are not camera specific. Some folk won’t or don’t need to understand this. And that’s fine. Crack on!

  • bobn2panorama_fish_eye
    2 years ago

    That's very pejorative. That's not what people are doing here.

  • Robert1955panorama_fish_eye
    209 posts
    2 years ago

    Seems to me you are doing close to half of the pissing

  • JohnSheehyRevpanorama_fish_eye
    549 posts
    2 years ago

    You may need to step back a bit and realize how much of the innuendo that you perceive here comes from yourself.

    Jim gave a number, not a statement that "you must get this 0.37 stops of lower photon noise, or your images are riddled with noise".

    Options; not mandates.