• Members 3916 posts
    April 11, 2023, 5:23 a.m.

    There are beginners and professional photographers who actually do care about technical discussions.

    If you are happy with your photos and are making some money from them, all well and good. Just continue doing what works best for you.

    But what about happily retired beginners who don't need to worry about making a living anymore and so can just sit back and improve their knowledge and skills at their leisure to create images with a higher quality than what you seem to accept?

    Since you are not interested in this thread it makes no sense why you are even participating in it, unless you are not one of the professional photographers making money you refer to 😜

  • Members 2303 posts
    April 11, 2023, 7:30 a.m.

    Hooray the text editor has been up graded πŸ˜πŸ‘

  • April 11, 2023, 7:31 a.m.

    Updates coming thick and fast.

  • Members 2303 posts
    April 11, 2023, 7:40 a.m.

    I might not get into as much trouble off a certain member now πŸ™„πŸ˜Š

  • Members 3916 posts
    April 11, 2023, 7:41 a.m.

    Yeah, the editor is idiot proof now ;-)

  • Members 2303 posts
    April 11, 2023, 7:45 a.m.

    i dont no about that im still a bit confused πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’« i jst cant get my head around it. the same as i just cant use Layers in photoshop πŸ˜’

  • Members 2303 posts
    April 11, 2023, 7:48 a.m.

    why am i seeing the post repeated ?

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    JPG, 288.7Β KB, uploaded by DonaldB on April 11, 2023.

  • Members 509 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:20 a.m.

    Just joined this thread after 90 odd posts. I can't say the discussion has left me any more "illuminated".

    Back in the ye olde days of digital, we were told that the ISO dial increases the amplification of the sensor making it more light sensitive. I think that I have gathered now that that is not quite true. I presume as it's there, it does something, else it's a waste of a control point and kind of undermines the Fuji dials approach.

    If someone wouldn't mind summarising, when shooting raw, what does the iso dial actually do?

  • Members 3916 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:23 a.m.

    oh well, never mind. At least you'd be a good test dummy for the next upgrade then πŸ˜‰

  • Members 3916 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:27 a.m.

    Hopefully the ISO For Beginners thread should explain ISO in simple terms. But I wouldn't go past the first dozen or so posts though.

  • Members 2303 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:34 a.m.

    same as it did 20 years ago, it hasnt changed . it just amplifies the pixel signal before the adc.

  • Members 2303 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:37 a.m.

    😁

  • Members 12 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:38 a.m.

    I think post processing software compounds the confusion.

    Some PP software, including the products I use, have a control "Exposure". Of course it can't change the actual exposure, but it's easy to see why folks think it does.

  • Members 125 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:55 a.m.

    The ISO dial still changes the digital gain of the ADC.

  • Members 509 posts
    April 11, 2023, 8:58 a.m.

    1) What effect does this have on the image
    2) What about ISO-less sensors?

    p.s.

    Yay, now have a personalised avatar. Small minds and all that!

  • Members 125 posts
    April 11, 2023, 9:55 a.m.

    1) To answer this question it is important to know which image in the pipeline we’re talking about?

    2) Practically speaking there is more leeway in post. But, yes, what about ISO invariant sensors? What was the intention behind this question as I don’t think this is related to the core of this discussion.

  • Members 3916 posts
    April 11, 2023, 10 a.m.

    The answer to your questions is in the ISO For Beginners threads in both the Beginners Questions and Beginners Questions Discussion forums.

    Or perhaps start your own thread on the topic because your questions have nothing to do with the op.

  • Members 976 posts
    April 11, 2023, 12:36 p.m.

    Currently, ISO setting may control the pixel capacitance, control amplification, control multiplication, force a tag controlling out-of-camera conversion, do nothing except forcing the tag.