• Members 976 posts
    May 25, 2023, 7:19 p.m.

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    Got this from B&H.

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    PNG, 646.4 KB, uploaded by IliahBorg on May 25, 2023.

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 8:50 p.m.

    live histogram on your Hasselblad is obviously a jpeg. my live histogram/zebras didnt move when i changed WB or even DRO from one extreme to the other.

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 8:54 p.m.

    i shoot some events in Jpeg. because i can 😎

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:01 p.m.

    agree. my original thread. "Does Raw Histogram Matter" my answer was NO. good fun though testing with all my gear. but my A74 raws clip the same as my camera histogram, so i dont have that head room irrelevant whether its a raw histogram or not.

  • Members 976 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:03 p.m.

    Everybody can. Not everybody does, they have their reasons not to.

  • Members 1737 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:16 p.m.

    Not my experience with the following Sony cameras: a7, a7II, a7III, a7R, a7RII, a7RIII, a7RIV,a7S,a7SII, a9, a9II.

  • Members 1737 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:18 p.m.

    Not according to the raw files and back-of-camera shots you posted.

  • Members 976 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:23 p.m.

    Sorry, but my answer is NO, you are not testing. Tests have protocols, and they are systematic.

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:33 p.m.

    they lack confidence knowing they make mistakes.

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:35 p.m.

    you keep quoting the same cameras. do us all a big favour and post a live histogram from any of those cameras.

  • Members 976 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:36 p.m.

    ROTFLMAO

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:38 p.m.

    argumentative. holds no substance.

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:39 p.m.

    😁

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 9:46 p.m.

    Question for you JIm what's the latency of the live jpeg image in the EVF and what's the latency of the histogram ?

  • Members 14 posts
    May 25, 2023, 10:04 p.m.

    There is a need. I've been shooting in mute mode with reduced contrast so as to get some semblance of a raw histogram/blinkies. Unfortunately, it means an additional workflow step to process at the chosen profile.

    Yes, it really irks when manuals for flagship professional cameras are written as if it's to be used by a P&S shooter, even worse when they appear to be written by a Japanese computer and put through a translator app.

  • Members 1737 posts
    May 25, 2023, 10:05 p.m.

    I pointed out the differences when you posted the images. You were silent on the differences I identified.

  • Members 1737 posts
    May 25, 2023, 10:09 p.m.

    I don't know what you mean by the word latency in this context. Do you mean the delay between the light leaving the subject and the light entering the photographer's eye? If so, the JPEG image has far lower latency, even if the camera is tethered. But for studio work, I often shoot a test image and look at the raw file, using the information thus revealed to know how much windage to apply to the in-camera histogram in that circumstance. Then you get the best of both worlds.

  • Members 2332 posts
    May 25, 2023, 10:26 p.m.

    The jpeg image is shown near instant in my evf or lcd from memory 1/120 sec . the live histogram/zebras takes 1.5 secs to show a reading.