• Members 2003 posts
    March 26, 2026, 7:04 p.m.

    Well I got the chance here with this thread to show everyone my fantastic general exposure method ;-)

  • Members 2553 posts
    March 26, 2026, 8:32 p.m.

    Sure, in practice it works. I work most of the time at base ISO and I the three parameters will give correctly exposed pictures, if I change speed or aperture.

  • Members 2553 posts
    March 26, 2026, 8:33 p.m.

    Maybe it is time for an "Equivalence" thread too.

  • March 26, 2026, 9:07 p.m.

    Maybe not. 😁

  • March 26, 2026, 9:11 p.m.

    There's two different things being discussed here.

    The exposure triangle is perfectly valid as long as you recognise it's what ends up on the SD card - so it's not "exposure" as such, but the end result uses 3 different things to produce the final output. It's a useful way of thinking about the parameters needed to produce a good image.

    Then there's the 'sensor' argument. Mostly a load of rubbish as ISO is set after the sensor, not on it.

    And that should be an end to the discussion (but I bet it isn't). 😂

  • Members 1437 posts
    March 26, 2026, 9:42 p.m.

    I like circular slide-rules or things like this

    www.philip-birch.com/uploads/1/1/8/5/118596268/hd-actinograph2_orig.jpg

    😏

  • Members 1798 posts
    March 26, 2026, 10:48 p.m.

    That is my thinking. A beginner mostly only thinks in terms of brightness or lightness. Let them learn the parameters involved in that process and further down the track when they are ready (if ever) they can learn about exposure.

    As far as I know, high school science still teaches that electrons exist in shells around the nucleus. It is a valid introductory concept that is enough to then learn about valence, basic chemical bonding etc. Even though it's completely wrong...

    We could rename it to "The Brightness Triangle" and "The Exposure Relationship"

  • Members 97 posts
    March 27, 2026, 1:46 a.m.

    The best tool available for this are actually Sony's "Zebras". I don't know why other manufacturers haven't implemented something like this.

  • Members 1798 posts
    March 27, 2026, 2:29 a.m.

    Panasonic has something akin to zebras.

    Sony may have patented the idea and others have to pay a licensing fee???

  • Members 1437 posts
    March 27, 2026, 5:08 p.m.

    There is a method known as 'UniWB' where the LCD histogram is made to approximate raw levels using a camera's Custom WB function.

    www.guillermoluijk.com/tutorial/uniwb/index_en.htm

  • Members 2648 posts
    March 28, 2026, 8:57 a.m.

    dual gain is referred to as eg : iso 800 and iso 4000 no one specifies it using any other reference value other than ISO 😊

  • Members 1437 posts
    March 28, 2026, 2:17 p.m.

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  • March 28, 2026, 4:35 p.m.

    Stop it, you two.

    Alan

  • Members 2648 posts
    March 28, 2026, 8:38 p.m.

    exposure triangle. Eg: iso 100 + S+A, iso 800 +S+A, iso 4000 +S+A all voltages changed at photo diode amp level 😎 no different than film. this is 3 exposure triangle examples.

  • Members 97 posts
    March 29, 2026, 12:57 a.m.

    I'll just stick with the Zebras. Much, much simpler...

  • Members 2648 posts
    March 29, 2026, 6:19 a.m.

    zebras are near perfect when set up correctly, raw file on raw digger.

  • Members 1437 posts
    March 29, 2026, 2:44 p.m.

    Sigma missed an opportunity when they introduced the SD1 Merrill and their V.5 raw converter. The new converter had a Monochrome (not converted color) Mode - where the three Foveon raw layer values could be combined in any proportions with a Mixer. They already had a three-channel RGB histogram available on the LCD, so a three-channel raw histogram should not have been impossible.

  • March 30, 2026, 1:43 p.m.

    Here's a small diagram I made which shows where exposure triangle is valid in a digital camera.

    light flow.jpg

    light flow.jpg

    JPG, 78.6 KB, uploaded by AlanSh on March 30, 2026.